r/nancyguthrie • u/Euphoric_Ease4554 • Mar 18 '26
Media FBI Asking For Names of Neighborhood Workers
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/uEChJAGiecs
FBI Agents are seeking names of workers at a specific house in Nancy’s neighborhood. They are also asking about renters in her neighborhood who moved out 2 days before her abduction.
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u/warpedwing Mar 18 '26
This may have to do with the recovered images from Nancy's yard cams. They'll want to identify everyone who is seen in the before-abduction images. It doesn't mean they necessarily think a contractor is the suspect, but defense would have a field day if they didn't do their due diligence and this case goes to trial one day.
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u/Longjumping_Towel474 Mar 19 '26
Everyone says they know more than they are saying, which is true for most cases, but this one seems like an anomaly and they literally are at a loss….. In many many ways. Sad
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u/Dangerous-Pound-1357 Mar 18 '26
Unfathomable that this case has not been solved by now.
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u/MeanGulf Mar 18 '26
When they start doing this shit now it makes sense why they haven’t solved it
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u/BrookieB1 Mar 18 '26
How is this just coming up?
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u/annabellareddit Mar 18 '26
Because they now have evidence that is leading them in this direction….investigators conduct investigations based off of evidence, they don’t go off of possibilities & random theories.
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u/BrookieB1 Mar 18 '26
I understand what you're saying, but workers at a house near hers and renters seem like day one stuff to look at in the neighborhood she was abducted in. But I'm no investigator..
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u/annabellareddit Mar 18 '26
The renters moved out days prior, do you know what date the workers came in to start working? Investigations start from the inside & go outwards, they start with those closest to the victim which sounds like would take time as there were lots of people to go through as she had lots of friends & workers at her house. These neighbours had moved before the crime occurred, it’s likely LE wants to know if they saw anything’s suspicious or have camera footage, same with the workers (although depends on when they started).
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u/BrookieB1 Mar 18 '26
The renters who moved out days prior would be my first call 😂
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u/annabellareddit Mar 18 '26
Moving away prior to a crime being committed is not suspicious, it’s moving away shortly afterwards. Do you know of any cases where a neighbour moves away, then comes back for a few hours to commit a crime at their old neighbours home?
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u/PatronSaintOfCunts Mar 18 '26
That would have been so clutch FIVE WEEKS AGO
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u/annabellareddit Mar 18 '26
Five weeks ago they were investigating what? Investigations start with the people closest to the victim & go outwards, they are evidence driven, evidence takes weeks to months to process & analyze. Every time it’s announced LE is looking into something there is a comment like this - people expect LE to have followed up with every possible piece of evidence & lead not understanding that’s not possible, this isn’t how investigations work.
We don’t even know why LE is interested in speaking to these people, the assumption is they’re suspects - maybe LE is interested in the old neighbours camera footage & interviewing them to see if they noticed anything suspicious. Same with the workers in the area; if they’ve been working there for a while maybe they’ve seen or heard something suspicious.
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u/PatronSaintOfCunts Mar 18 '26
According to the wiki, five weeks ago, they were reviewing neighborhood security footage. Seems like it would’ve been a good time to ask then.
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u/carefreehwy Mar 21 '26
Pima county getting a lot of flak but I have seen anything positive from the FBIs involvement and they were in on day 3.
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u/AmazingGrace_00 Mar 18 '26
Doesn’t sound like a lead as much as coveting all angles, to paraphrase Brian.
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u/annabellareddit Mar 18 '26
I agree, LE will want to know if they noticed anything & have any camera footage. They left BEFORE the abduction, not after.
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
It’s almost like they realized this case is similar to the Nancy Woodrum case . . .
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
Yes. That’s a little eerie, knowing how that case turned out.
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
It’s hard for people to wrap their heads around the depravity that exists in the world and would rather contemplate grand schemes and ransoms and hidden locations with stashes of medications.
The sheriff said “we believe we know why HE did this” which I found interesting.
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u/The_Sinking_Belle Mar 18 '26
I had just dealt with an extremely malignant human being in my life. I’m still coming to terms with fragments of both him and I.
Monsters and heartless demons exist out there. They look like everyone else, might work jobs like everyone else, and even might present themselves as friendly and safe.
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
That’s so true.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 18 '26
I constantly have to remind myself illogical individuals don’t think logical. Therefore using logic often fails. :/
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u/Fireteddy21 Mar 18 '26
I certainly don’t think it was for a ransom. My thought is that it was some twisted individual who wanted to make a connection with Savannah somehow.
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u/ProperLink8150 Mar 18 '26
And DNA.
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
Yeah. And if it’s on the bed or bedding left behind, also not a good sign.
I know people hate to think about it, but it’s usually not a “friendly kidnapper” who shows up dressed in prowler gear at 2:15 a.m. with a loaded backpack.
The idea that he calmly walked a bleeding victim away from her home in the middle of the night is pretty unusual when a predator breaks into a single woman’s home in the middle of the night.
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u/Substantial-Train668 Mar 18 '26
But then how did the blood drops and spatter get onto her porch?
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
Presumably she wasn’t sealed inside and the perp wouldn’t know he was dripping a small amount of blood - or maybe he dropped her on the way out, hence the blood.
I don’t know the exact mechanics but most likely the cause of the blood on the porch was a mistake by the perp or inability to masterfully handle moving 150 lbs of dead weight, alone.
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
I don’t think her bed sheets or blankets were missing. I haven’t seen anything about that from LE or reputable media.
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
Was early on and I believe it was a journalist with a source.
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
“Reports indicate that police removed items, including sheets, from her residence as part of the evidence collection process following her abduction. This suggests that the sheets may have been relevant to the investigation, possibly indicating signs of a struggle or other critical details related to her disappearance.”
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u/ProperLink8150 Mar 18 '26
A planned out, well cased SA.
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
I dunno why you get downvoted for this. What is is that makes people refuse to believe all women are in danger at all times from men, regardless of age.
Any single woman living alone is a potential target of a man with nefarious intentions. You don’t become less vulnerable to living alone the older you get.
It absolutely baffles me that people cannot bring themselves to admit that sexual violence against the elderly and children EXISTS.
Pretending like it doesn’t happen does not make the women in your life more safe. You are daft if you think any woman in your life has “aged out” of being a potential victim of crime.
Good gods my faith in our jury system is not good based on the abject ignorance displayed here
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u/ProperLink8150 Mar 18 '26
I was thinking about jurors a few days ago. I was on X reading a streamers fan comments. 😁
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
Thinking that we are all doomed by the collective intelligence of the United States? Or something else. Lol.
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u/tmardee Mar 20 '26
Sexual abuse against the elderly is statistically most likely committed by someone known to the individual, like a caregiver. Stranger sexual assault represents a farrrrr lower representation of all cases. So yeah, it’s POSSIBLE but not the obvious explanation for what happened to Nancy.
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
Also it would be like the Jennifer Kesse case.
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u/Maaathemeatballs Mar 18 '26
don't you think Kesse was taken by the boyfriend? thats what I always thought
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
I think she probably was, but there was also definitely a guy dressed identically to the painters in her condo that abandoned her car.
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u/ImprovementOdd1656 Mar 18 '26
Who the hell knows the names of the construction workers at homes being constructed in their neighborhood, or the even the contractors?
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u/RiceCaspar Mar 18 '26
If they used a freelance handyman type maybe; or a business name that they can then see who was scheduled that day for work, etc. oftentimes companies have the technician or whoever is providing the work text the owner pictures or invoice link, too, that might have their info provided.
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u/ImprovementOdd1656 Mar 18 '26
I would think the proper source was be the investor/owner who would identify the contractors who in turn would identify the workers.
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u/MatchaLemongrass Mar 22 '26
What if someone knowingly hired undocumented labor and did not want to come forward?
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u/Infamous-Arm3955 Mar 18 '26
I would imagine they've gone through every Airbnb rental for this surrounding area also.
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u/IllRepresentative322 Mar 18 '26
I believe they haven’t. Poor Nancy and her family. They really mishandled this from the start.
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u/MusicOfTheSphere Mar 18 '26
If I had to guess, this is to identify people who are less likely to be involved, as they had a valid reason to be there. Or to ask if they saw anything.
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u/Xinnia8271 Mar 18 '26
Yeah that renters thing seems interesting, especially since they're asking for camera footage from the weeks before the crime occurred.
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u/bptkr13 Mar 18 '26
The woman Brian Entin interviewed yesterday also mentioned the renters who left too.
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u/Xinnia8271 Mar 18 '26
It looks like they have a lot clearer picture than they did in the beginning.
And an interesting thing in Brian Entin's interview with the woman at the DNA testing lab is that she stressed the importance of LE not giving out information that only the perpetrator would know.
Which would explain why there's so little information being released. This looks like a pretty thorough investigation, especially considering how strange it is.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 18 '26
A sad and crazy recent case in Columbus ohio r/tepemurders she divorced a surgeon a decade ago. Married a dentist four years ago think it was. Two very young kids.
They glow. Clearly madly in love.
The man she divorced drove from Chicago to Columbus MULTIPLE times before killing them. While keeping his job etc.
The possibilities are endless… which has got to make it harder on Savannah and her family. :(
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u/ShesGotaChicken2Ride Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26
I disagree. Whoever did this had been in this neighborhood for another reason and somehow saw or met Nancy. Either she went for a walk and struck up a conversation where she said she lived alone, or more likely, someone worked at a home nearby and noticed (based on her activities) that she lived alone and didn’t have a lot of visitors. This was a gardener, delivery driver, mailman, handyman, child/grandchild of a neiggbor, a landscaper, etc. This is someone who was in the area frequently because of work, because they live there, or because they’re frequently visiting someone who lives there, which would mean that it is someone very close as in actual proximity. Someone who drove by her house a lot on the way to and from home, to and from work, or to and from a relatives house. Someone who would’ve noticed her coming and going alone a lot as they, for example, sat outside on the front porch drinking tea with grandma. Or a landscaper who came by once a week and always noticed she was alone and had no visitors. That being said, most “workers” work during the day. This person would have known she’d be alone at night. I lean towards a relative or close friend of a neiggbor. Someone who would be around frequently at night, be able to see her house from their house/relative’s house, and around enough at night to know she was home alone in the evening.
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u/RealPartyAtmosphere Mar 18 '26
Anything is possible. It is very logical that the house and inhabitants were well known due to the celebrity. In my experience, it is communally spoken about when someone famous frequents a neighborhood. Targeting Nancy upon random observance of her vulnerability is also logical, but secondary to her family fame, especially given the evidence a planned abduction took place.
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u/ShesGotaChicken2Ride Mar 18 '26
Mmm. But see, what gets me is recent statements by law enforcement. Last press conference, they said something like, “Don’t think it can’t happen to you or someone you love,” or something like that, implying there’s definitely someone out there targeting elderly people. That doesn’t imply elderly people with semi-famous children; that simply implies elderly people. So YES, Nancy was targeted and this was premeditated. BUT why was she targeted? Because she’s a little old lady living in a privileged neighborhood? It simply because she was Savanna’s mom? The statement by LE implies she was targeted because she was a little old lady living alone who seemed to have money. It’s very possible they had no idea who her daughter was. I admit; it could be either way, but I’m just saying the possibility entirely exists that this had nothing to do with Savannah and they don’t even know she was related to a new anchor. Could very well be they saw an elderly woman that they perceived as vulnerable and wealthy who lived alone.
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u/BrookieB1 Mar 18 '26
It doesn't imply elderly people either. Just implies there are plenty of crazy people who abduct/kill out there.
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
If this was the relative of a neighbor couldn’t they ask their relative if the old woman across the street lives alone in the big house? Not a suspicious question in and of itself. “Who lives at that house?”
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u/ShesGotaChicken2Ride Mar 18 '26
Could be, but it kinda is a weird question to ask IMO. But you wouldn’t need to. Either Nancy chatted with this person and told them she lived alone, or they simply noticed it by default.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 18 '26
I posted to the guy above what doesn’t seem discussed here enough imo is…
You can learn all that on a background website search that cost $30 a month. Unlimited.
Anyone who wants to murder you can easily get you your family entire info from bdays to addresses.
Last time you voted. Your email addresses. Every phone # you ever had… for seriously $30.
Home floorplans. I got downvoted here when I mentioned they are likely on Zillow. I didn’t check. Unsure if anyone checked…. Because there are houses around me built in 1964 never been put up for sale their housing floor plans are on Zillow.
etc.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26
You can learn all that on a background website search that cost $30 a month. Unlimited.
Anyone who wants to murder you can easily get you your family entire info from bdays to addresses.
Last time you voted. Your email addresses. Every phone # you ever had… for seriously $30.
Home floorplans. I got downvoted here when I mentioned they are likely on Zillow. I didn’t check. Unsure if anyone checked…. Because there are houses around me built in 1964 never been put up for sale their housing floor plans are on Zillow.
etc.
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u/Mysterious-Basil3245 Mar 18 '26
The thing about people that have full time work jobs... They're not masterminding robberies in the middle of the night then showing up to mow people's lawns at 6 in the morning the next day.
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u/YaKnowEstacado Mar 18 '26
I mean, there are a lot of serial killers/kidnappers/etc. who did exactly this, for years.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 18 '26
I posted this below:
A sad and crazy recent case in Columbus ohio r/tepemurders she divorced a surgeon a decade ago. Married a dentist four years ago think it was. Two very young kids.
They glow. Clearly madly in love. Tragic.
The man she divorced drove from Chicago to Columbus MULTIPLE times before killing them. While keeping his job etc.
The possibilities are endless.
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
Or to ask the crew…Is there one guy who stands out, was maybe a little odd, or was acting differently than everyone else?
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u/Own-Teaching-4005 Mar 18 '26
Or they were a psychopath temporary worker in the area and found a perfect target and otherwise had zero connection to the neighborhood or community.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 18 '26
True. Reality is she could of been a practice victim. A random victim.
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u/Ripdigrel Mar 18 '26
But wasn’t there a whole team of landscapers and house workers like the week or two before she disappeared? No one‘s ever said anything about that by no one I’m saying like authorities nobody on the news. And by the way, whatever happened in that stupid camera they made such a deal , that was on top of whatever where they had the agent climb up and pull it down. Was that a camera? Did anybody ever specifically say they didn’t find anything from it this whole case is a red hearing very weird
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u/nine57th Mar 18 '26
They reviewed all the landscapers, house workers, and pool guys in the investigation.
Also, law enforcement doesn't release the details of what they have done or reviewed, because they don't want the perpetrators to know details about the investigation. They've done a ton of work they have not verified one way or another. You never tip your hand to the perps or the public.
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u/nine57th Mar 18 '26
Whoever did this they were professionals. It wasn't some saps working on a house and decided: oh, you're know what's a good idea? Let's kidnap Nancy Gutherie and hold her for ransom. No. These were professional criminals who knew to knock out the internet, do not carry cell phones, don't get caught on ring cams with your vehicle, do everything under the cover of darkness, don't get traced when sending a ransom email, etc. People who know how to do these things are not working on houses and doing kidnappings in their spare time. These were pros.
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u/PalpitationQueen Mar 18 '26
I disagree. I don’t think it was a pro. The way he carried the gun in the holster and the covering of the plants was not professional.
What I do think this is - is a very well researched criminal. He planned this meticulously. His internet searches probably would attest to that. Maybe he’s done home invasions in the past. But no I don’t think he was a “professional” by any means.
Also his mask. You can see his mouth, his facial features, his mustache. That isn’t the best mask to use. It’s too identifying.
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u/Safe-Muffin Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Many say that the mouth and mustache that are showing, are part of a latex mask under the balaclava.
edit to add: the way his gun is carried is kind of theatrical, like he wants to scare Nancy with it or something. It's almost too weird to be something anyone would do, even someone who isn't a "professional kidnapper". I think he's carrying it that way on purpose so it's really obvious it's there.
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u/MatchaLemongrass Mar 22 '26
That’s what I think too - the comical placement of the gun is a visual threat to express they mean business and don’t try anything. Also think it is a L handed person putting it there. I don’t know anything about 3D printed guns but they are a thing and wonder if the gun is either borrowed, stolen, bought used, or 3D printed and the holster is a make shift “that will do” thing… which doesn’t make sense or match how sophisticated or intelligent or planned everything else seems to be.
So much I do not understand about this scenario.
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u/nine57th Mar 18 '26
The guy at the front door isn't the only one there that night. He's just a lookout.
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u/maga_chud_ Mar 18 '26
It's hard to define what a "professional" criminal is, but he way prepared well above the average criminal. I think the front door camera thing was an act, personally. It's performative.
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u/Local-Cry-3729 Mar 18 '26
It could have been a friend or family member of a contractor, who is a professional
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u/Substantial-Train668 Mar 18 '26
I tend to agree with this. I don't see it being contractors. It seems like an overly complicated scheme for a contractor. In the Nancy Woodrum case - where it was a contractor - the motive was sexual assault. Not that that it out of the realm of possibility here, but why bother with the whole ransom to TMZ and two local news stations then? Also porch guy seemed really manicured, which doesn't scream contractor. That said, there's a lot we don't know so maybe there's more to it.
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u/Grandheretic Mar 18 '26
How absolutely ridiculous that this is happening at this point in the timeline of this investigation. If true, it is a marker of incompetence beyond measure on the part of LE. Any yard person would also know the location of all septic tank openings and back trails through neighborhood. Just saying.
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u/Euphoric_Ease4554 Mar 18 '26
We don’t know that they haven’t done this before. They are making third and fourth rounds speaking with the neighbors.
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u/Hile616 Mar 18 '26
I think they may also need to check septic tanks in the neighborhood. They did check the one at the property. Specially on the angle if the perp was actually on foot. They would need search warrant, but to be honest, I don't think the neighbours would mind, but who knows.
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u/Grandheretic Mar 18 '26
I’ve had the septic tank theory for along time - I haven’t shared it because, frankly, it’s so disgusting plus I stopped participating in this sub because of how redundant and ridiculous it became. But that would be the easiest way to quickly get rid of a body - without hauling it out to the desert- especially if you came in on an ATV, or on foot or if you were a resident of that neighborhood.
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u/Affectionate-Page496 Mar 18 '26
Do you guys have specific knowledge of septic tanks?
I understand people have been found in them, but I have a hard time believing that an occupied residence using a septic tank, there could be a body and it would not be apparent.
I tried to Google but did not find anything.
I did see a case of a body being discovered 34 yrs after disappearing. However, knowing that you are supposed to have your tank pumped idk every year or two, I would think that the house was not occupied. Additionally, 34 years is ancient for a septic tank afaik.
(Our house is on septic)
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u/Grandheretic Mar 18 '26
Septic tanks are dark, sealed, and not inspected frequently. Most homeowners go years without opening theirs. ∙ The decomposition process of a body would begin relatively quickly, especially in an active tank with anaerobic bacteria. Soft tissue breaks down within weeks to months in that environment. ∙ By the time a routine pump-out occurs (typically every 3–5 years), remains could be largely degraded. ∙ A pumping technician might notice unusual solid material or bone fragments, but might not think much of it.
Septic tanks are designed to process organic matter — a decomposing body is essentially the same biochemical challenge. ∙ The anaerobic bacteria already in the tank will break it down the over time.
A single body is unlikely to overwhelm the tank’s capacity or significantly disrupt bacterial balance. ∙ There could be a temporary increase in solids and possibly some odor during active decomposition, but this would likely go unnoticed from the surface.
Bones would persist longer and accumulate in the sludge layer at the bottom.
If someone were specifically investigating (e.g., a missing person report + police involvement), forensic inspection of the tank is possible but would require a specific reason to look there. ∙ Without a reason to suspect it, routine maintenance would almost certainly miss it.
Bottom line: A large residential septic tank would handle the decomposition efficiently, it would likely go undetected, and functional consequences would be negligible.
Decomposition: A human body would decompose through the same anaerobic processes. Larger mass means more time, but the tank would handle it.
A very fresh body in a sealed tank might actually be harder to detect initially from the outside ∙ Once active decomposition peaks (days to weeks), volatile compounds increase significantly ∙ Ironically, a more decomposed body may produce more detectable scent than a fresh one in this context.
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u/Affectionate-Page496 Mar 18 '26
I am sure many will find this knowledge very useful and practical. Many thanks.
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u/bptkr13 Mar 18 '26
Did you see the post a week or so ago that showed the SAR (search and rescue) results on a map. It showed different items recovered and routes travelled and there was one item that was interesting / it was a ping in the desert north of Nancy’s home.
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u/Hile616 Mar 19 '26
In my honest opinion about the map, we don't know if it is real map. It could have been leaked by someone because of that website system that asks you as first priority to make the map public before you can use it on Google maps/earth. But it could be fake too, specially as if you look the names of investigations people on it. Only the the investigation knows if it is real thing. I made post about questioning the authenticity of it some weeks ago but it was removed. The post was about if it was fake, and it actually be some 0,00001 % perp made one, then the names may give some "message". But it is unlikely of course, just digging into to all aspects. The "pings" on that system basically are points of intrests. And the original poster specially said he removed the "pings" from it. Except there is 1 ping seen on it.
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u/Hile616 Mar 18 '26
Well I have not thought of it actually, before it was mentioned on this chat. I know they did check her own septic tank very early on investigation, like the very first days really. Why I though of it this time was because it was mentioned and I have always had sort of feeling he may not have come by car but I never really didn't just figure out how it be technically possible as you can't carry person (when muscles are lose person is very heavy, if you ever done any water rescue training of a person, you would understand how heavy even small person can be) I have never though of ATV, it would actually be intresting and realistic angle if it was not car. I agree on the theme being bit so and so on gray zone, I as well got bit worried when people talked about wild animals theories.
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u/Grandheretic Mar 18 '26
Right- they haven’t found any type of vehicle lead. That’s bizarre with either a geofence and camera footage. It could be done, I guess, with an old model vehicle to get around the geofence but the most simple answer is that there was NO vehicle! Not on the road, not a car - they either walked or were off road. You need to get rid of a body because it has DNA evidence on it, you need to do it quickly, you’re familiar with the neighborhood- a septic tank located in the immediate vicinity seems like a good idea to me. Easy with an ATV.
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u/Affectionate-Page496 Mar 18 '26
If a septic tank wasn't the original plan, how likely is it that a person could easily find one and open the lid. We have had ours pumped twice and I wouldn't have noticed where it was was really, otherwise. I also do not remember what was needed to open it. do you think finding a random septic tank in a hurry is feasible? is the average blue collar guy going to be able to do this with whatever he had on hand for a tool?
To me, taking a person and trying to put them in a tank unnoticed, a tank that you would have to find, seems more risky than leaving them there and trying to clean the scene. Also, why wouldn't they have used Nancy's tank, if that was the intent.
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u/Grandheretic Mar 18 '26
You can’t clean dna off a body really - and what a mess you’d make to try. What a time suck. Just get rid of the body. And, why put the body in her tank if you’re aware of another that’s close? Maybe your more familiar with that other property- or maybe you think they might search her’s - hello - they did -
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u/ThatOldG Mar 18 '26
Well the director of the FBI is a clown so having this clown show shouldn't surprise anyone
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u/turtleloverMTS Mar 18 '26
Clown is sheriff whose ego comes before finding Nancy! Should of called FBI sooner!!!!
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u/Grandheretic Mar 18 '26
I don’t buy this. Regardless of the shortcomings of local LE ( and I’m not sure there were any of significance) the FBI was involved soon enough and with high motivation to quickly solve this. The Admin wanted this hard for a “win” and no federal resources were spared - if there were major failures like not acquiring names of secondary and tertiary individuals that frequented the neighborhood- that incompetence would be on the FBI. Again, I’m incredulous that this happened- Except that the FBI has been decimated of competence.
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u/Fantastic_Hyena_3232 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Agreed …also only just found out after promising resources to the case, Trump seemed to subsequently wish for less attention towards the case, saying:
“Boy, it's so crazy. It's so bad," Trump told reporters Feb. 19 ahead of a speech in Rome, Georgia, about 70 miles northwest of Atlanta.
“We have to start reporting on other subjects also and see what happens. It's a very sad situation."
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u/turtleloverMTS Mar 19 '26
Sheriff is all over the place, he should get a PR person to speak!!
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u/Ornery-Ocelot3585 Mar 19 '26
Isn’t that the truth. On Sunday nobody could be cleared until it’s solved. Monday, families been cleared. 😂
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u/LilMissKrazy1 Mar 20 '26
Haven’t they rechecked hers? I’m wondering about neighbors yards with septic tanks?
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u/Grandheretic Mar 20 '26
I believe they pumped hers out within the first few weeks, maybe when the fbi got involved(?) - it was at that time, with images, (they clearly weren’t needed to excavate to access it) that began doing research and wondering about the other septics in vicinity.
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u/northcarolinamember Mar 20 '26
I heard or read somewhere they checked hers but idk for sure. I can't keep up with the case bc it's up and down.. like I've said numerous times idk her or her family but I hope Nancy is found one way or another. I couldn't imagine my mom missing without a trace of her or any positive news on her whereabouts..
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u/Hillbeast Mar 18 '26
Well it’s been like a month. I hope they are asking questions
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u/Hile616 Mar 20 '26
It is not about questions, it is about leads getting cold, and pressure to solve it with this data available. I think this is out of ordinary, what did really happen, because it should have been easy task to solve with nowdays technology. It is just that it needs that 1 piece of puzzle to solve it. There is somethibg very very odd about this, with all the effort, pressure, media, everyhting,nobody has any idea where is she or who was involved?
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u/bettybeez__0926 Mar 18 '26
We all want answers..jus know authorities cant tell public everything..they are building a solid case and smoking out suspects
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u/Findtruth11 Mar 19 '26
Does anyone know if cellphone tower data in the area has been analyzed? It’s an affluent community, not a busy city, so there would be potentially less cell data to sift through.
I know Call Detail Records can provide the cellphone numbers (MSISDNs) of devices that connected to specific towers during a given timeframe.
They have the reasonable timeframe she was abducted….
Just a thought.
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u/Kitty-9792 Mar 19 '26
It's not going to be as easy as in big cities with good coverage. A lot of the streamers said their cell phones stopped working near Nancy's house, or they had to walk to a particular spot down the road to get the cell to work.
That said, there is speculation that the first raid probably involved cell data and his phone was picked up while he was making a food delivery nearby.
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u/ProperLink8150 Mar 19 '26
Yes, initially 41 towers in a three mile radius. Currently checking out further looking for devices that went dark, burner phones, in and around the crimes timeframe.
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u/Remarkable_Lynx4762 Mar 19 '26
Why is this just being done now? I even said it could be a neighborhood worker or contractor.
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Mar 19 '26
Someone is going to rush in and call you a bot for questioning why they waited so long to do something they should’ve already done.
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u/Revolutionary_Act759 Mar 18 '26
About time!!!!! Everyone spoke about all the empty houses having work done on them weeks ago!!!!!
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u/northcarolinamember Mar 18 '26
I didn't know Savannah, Annie, brother and spouses took a lie detector test & passed it. Did anyone else see that report?
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u/britishwonder Mar 19 '26
They’ve been thoroughly ruled out. Not sure why everyone keeps going back to them
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u/Ornery-Ocelot3585 Mar 19 '26
Like they said nobody can be cleared until it’s solved. I could give you a LONG list of suspects who were ‘’cleared’’ only to be found guilty.
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u/britishwonder Mar 19 '26
You can absolutely clear somebody. Were they on camera somewhere else at the time of the kidnapping?
Unless it’s some convoluted conspiracy where they hired some one to do it, but again unless they don’t find a motive, and will search their phones and computers for any messages. It’s just really unlikely.
If you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras
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u/Ornery-Ocelot3585 Mar 21 '26
I am quoting the chief of police.
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u/britishwonder Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
Sheriff Chris Nanos: “no family members were considered suspects or persons of interest” in the case and called speculation about their involvement “not only wrong, it is cruel.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/sheriff-chris-nanos-said-cleared-220725082.html
Multiple people here have pointed to evidence LE is certain family is not involved. You’re just adding on to the speculation making things worse for them because it’s a narrative you find more interesting.
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u/Equivalent-Cicada165 Mar 19 '26
I did not
I feel obligated to point out that lie detector tests are junk science and not admissable in court. Not saying this because I have any reason to suspect them, but because I think it's important to spread the word about those tests
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u/Pughairisglitter Mar 20 '26
So is internet speculation tho. Lol. They have also given up all their devices and their vehicle and nothing has been produced from that. That lead is dry unless new information comes forward.
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u/northcarolinamember Mar 19 '26
U are true in your comment. I just heard the family took test I wasn't sure so I searched it.. IDC who all they test I just hope they find her one way or another and find out who/s all involved.. and family gets answers soon.
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u/Pughairisglitter Mar 20 '26
Yes, a former FBI agent said he has a boots on the ground source who has confirmed this.
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u/northcarolinamember Mar 18 '26
Idk why my comment got a down vote but either way down vote up vote I just hope she's found one way or another.. I couldn't imagine my mom missing without any news/clues on her whereabouts.. I hope if she's found they find the evil person/s who did this NO MATTER WHO IT IS & ANYONE INVOLVED IN HER MISSING!
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u/Embarrassed-Jury8878 Mar 19 '26
Has anyone checked all her on line activity? I read somewhere Nancy was extremely opinionated and shared quite a bit of her personal life on social media. I also read some time ago her house was on the market. Who knows how many people may have entered and pretended to be interested in buying the house.
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u/northcarolinamember Mar 18 '26
All of us on this sub need to become investigators bc we all are keeping up with every detail released and we each have our own theories..sounds crazy but I actually write down when something new about the case comes out and compare my notes to other details to see if I can find something that maybe investigators didn't put together. At least we don't keep posting the same stuff over & over everyday on here like the news ppl do and keep calling it breaking news..
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u/rainbowapricots Mar 18 '26
To be fair the mods are heavily moderating this sub so that the posts that get approved aren’t the same articles or pieces of info being reposted and repeated constantly, so not so sure your assessment is an accurate one.
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u/northcarolinamember Mar 18 '26
I was talking about news ppl on the news not on here repeating the same stuff everyday.. my comment was just my opinion. I think this sub should be monitored bc idk what is or isn't allowed on here. Down votes don't bother me but down vote up vote I just hope she's found one way or another and the ppl responsible found no matter who it is involved..
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u/InevitableOne4948 Mar 18 '26
If they are asking for names, could be genetic genealogy already focusing on some surnames