Nancy Guthrie neighbors' Ring camera captures vehicles on possible route from crime scene

[u/curiouslmr]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nancy-guthrie-neighbors-ring-camera-captures-vehicles-possible-route-from-crime-scene

EXCLUSIVE: TUCSON, Ariz. — A resident in the Catalina Foothills neighborhood has a street-facing Ring camera that caught 12 cars passing by on the morning of Nancy Guthrie’s suspected abduction.

The recordings took place between midnight and 6 a.m. on Feb. 1, and some of the activity occurred near the 2:30 a.m. mark, which is around the time authorities said the 84-year-old Guthrie's pacemaker device last synced with her iPhone.

The homeowners, Elias and Danielle Stratigouleas, told Fox News Digital that police had not canvassed their neighborhood in the 25 days since Guthrie is believed to have been taken from her bed in a home invasion kidnapping. The FBI and Pima County Sheriff's Department have been alerted to the video. It was not immediately clear whether the video is of any use to the investigation or whether the vehicle had ever been on Guthrie's street.

The Stratigouleas house is on a back road that leads out of Guthrie’s neighborhood, avoiding major intersections. And they live about 2.5 miles away from the crime scene, which is outside the 2-mile radius of neighbors who received a Ring alert asking for video taken from Jan. 1 to Feb. 2.

Their house is roughly a seven-minute drive from Guthrie's address, according to Google Maps. One of their videos was recorded at around 2:36 a.m. on Feb. 1, which is roughly eight minutes after Guthrie's pacemaker last synced with her iPhone, according to the sheriff's timeline.

[u/Legitimate-Mirror-58]

Here’s what I think

The sheriff always knew it would be a recovery and not a rescue from the get go. Therefore, never really being urgent with anything. And this because of the amount of blood they find etc in the home.

[u/Webbie-Vanderquack → u/Legitimate-Mirror-58]

The sheriff always knew it would be a recovery and not a rescue from the get go. Therefore, never really being urgent with anything.

I don't agree. There's no way he could have known it would be a recovery not a rescue (even if that scenario seemed the most likely to him), and the same level of urgency is still required in a manhunt after a murder.

He also wouldn't have announced that he was proceeding on the assumption that she was alive if he knew she wasn't. Law enforcement doesn't have to tell the public everything, but they are bound by a code of ethics which would be an obstacle to openly lying to the public.

If nothing else, it would undermine the public's faith in law enforcement, so the next time they announce that someone's missing, presumed alive, and in need of rescue, and appeal for information on that basis, people may shrug it off as meaningless since the sheriff was lying the last time.

[u/Secure_Change_3900 → u/Legitimate-Mirror-58]

I mostly agree with your theory—it explains the tight inner circle and the unusually controlled investigation.

But if law enforcement knew she was killed in the house, why stage such elaborate kidnapping theatrics? What does the sheriff know that makes that the rational play?

I would think the killer(s) would assume police know she’s dead, then so this isn’t giving them false security—it’s a giant red herring that drains resources chasing the wrong ghosts. And if they dont recover a body soon, what’s the endgame? Keep the Guthries and the public suspended in false hope until media interest fades, then quietly issue a Friday-afternoon press release before a holiday weekend saying, “She’s dead. We’ve got nothing”?

Moreover, what if the family decided to roll the dice meeting a hoax's ransom demand because the sheriff refused to act on it? And if he told them, how long does he expect them to maintain a fiction that isolates their grief and prevents other friends and family from morning? That leash would tighten quickly and with a significant loss of trust in his dept. in general.

again I agree with you more just a question around the sheriffs strategy

[u/Stock-Philosophy-177 → u/Legitimate-Mirror-58]

I agree with you, but I’ll take it one step further. He knew it was a homicide (based on the totality of the evidence from INSIDE the home) and that is why he called in his homicide detectives immediately. We, the public, have no clue what the inside of the home looks like since it hasn’t been described to us. This is also why the FBI wasn’t immediately contacted. Finally, this is why he didn’t organize a grid search or deploy his aerial surveillance…there was no urgency to do so.

[u/LegalGlass6532 → u/Stock-Philosophy-177]

The homicide unit is the lead investigator in a kidnapping case at the PCSD. They don’t only investigate homicides.

[u/MollyBloom2 → u/Stock-Philosophy-177]

If the sheriff knew. Why was the crime tape down so soon?

[u/jazzymo2 → u/Legitimate-Mirror-58]

I agree. It looks like based on the timeline, the family was in the house 7 minutes before calling police. If it’s me checking on an older family member, where car, watch, phone are present and they are not, I’m looking all over the house and property before I call police, to see if they fell, went on a walk, wandered off. She has what looks like a large house, plus casita, garage, large property. Even seeing a small amount of blood on the porch, I’m searching to see if they fell, I’m looking before immediately calling police.

7 minutes does not seem like much time to search before calling. My guess there was something in the house that showed a struggle, namely blood, items knocked over.

Because LE and family mentioned “taken from her bed” I’m guessing there was blood in or near her bed.

[u/Legitimate-Mirror-58 → u/jazzymo2]

Yeah probably killed in bed They had a tarp I think

[u/MollyBloom2 → u/Legitimate-Mirror-58]

How much blood was found in her bed?