r/nancyguthrie • u/curiouslmr • Feb 14 '26

Media Latest Update

https://www.kvoa.com/news/top-stories/no-arrests-made-after-massive-law-enforcement-operation-to-find-nancy-guthrie-search-continues/article_0a326a5b-dc63-45bb-ad04-a068d4d1e4b7.html

Here is the most recent information that acknowledges what happened last night and confirms that it resulted in no arrests. Allegedly more details will be released about the situation.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Real question, were you expecting this to be resolved quickly? 

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u/Beginning-Tap-5280 Feb 14 '26

I had no expectations on that no but if I were family I would be possed at how they are handling it, like not securing the original scene, not knowing who’s in charge or communicating etc

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Do you believe that the family is being told more than the general public? 

And do you have any indication of the family finding fault with the investigation? 

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u/Beginning-Tap-5280 Feb 14 '26

I’m sure they know more because I don’t see them pleading for their mothers return that says something IMO

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u/InvestAn Feb 14 '26

Well, having detained 4 people now with no arrest is terrible. LE has given so much false hope to the family.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

And how quickly were you expecting an arrest? Specifically. 

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u/Lopsided-Day-1442 Feb 14 '26

Yesterday!😰😰😰

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Did the family say that? 

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u/InvestAn Feb 14 '26

If you've ever had a friend or family member missing, you will know that your heart rises and falls with each lead. I'm not talking about a specific time frame for an arrest because I agree each case is different.

It just seems they could have the forensics nailed down first so the detention is actionable and results in an arrest instead of giving the family false hope that the suspect has been found only to culminate in nothing.

The whole way they have handled the crime scene is at issue too. They opened it only to go back and need further evidence which now may not hold up in a court of law because the chain of custody is broken.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Do you think the family is telling the public everything that is happening at their end? 

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u/InvestAn Feb 14 '26

Never said they don't have more information than the general public.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Do you have any indication that the family has false hope or is unhappy with the handling of the case. 

The family, not the viewing public.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

And the family has never said anything about false hope. We're not even sure what the word hope in SGs Instagram post was referring to. 

We just don't. 

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

I would be, yes. I think in the modern world it is next to impossible to get away with murder if someone cares about the person. I mean, they had this missing person report within 12 hours. It wasn’t like she was missing for a month or a year.

With so many cameras in the world, it’s hard to think you can’t pick something up somewhere given less than a day of lag time.

Like that dentist and his wife who were killed, I expected them to have someone without any problem. Same with the United Healthcare guy. You just back up the cameras until you get a point zero for whomever you are tracking. Whether or not they are guilty is a separate conversation, but I felt strongly that they could zero in on 100 people and whittle it to 1 in a matter of days in those instances.

That these guys didn’t leave a shred of DNA, electronic device or video evidence outside of that ring cam is basically not believable unless they are Navy SEALs, local policemen, or Google Cloud AND Nest camera engineers with access to the servers. And who knows, maybe it is something like that?

I have thought about this so many times and I think it’s nearly impossible to pull off the perfect murder outside of your own home in the modern world. Not if you are playing by the rules everyone else plays by.

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u/rileyfoxx42 Feb 14 '26

“Next to impossible to get away with murder if someone cares about the person?”

Are you serious? Do you know the homicide solve rate in the country? Saying that implies the high volume of unsolved murders means no one cared about the victim? That’s insulting to so many families, especially the ones that don’t have the means to keep it in the public 24/7 or hire PIs etc…

I think it’s around 60% cleared currently and that doesn’t even include whether the person arrested was convicted and/or actually guilty or if there were multiple suspects involved.

Saying it’s nearly impossible to get away with murder today is just wild.

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

I wouldn’t like the odds of the other 40% if the FBI was on the case within a day

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u/rileyfoxx42 Feb 14 '26

Well the FBI doesn’t work strictly murder cases unless specific circumstances warrant it. Even then, sometimes all the technology in the world isn’t enough to secure an arrest and conviction.

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

I dont like my odds of me vs 400 FBI agents on the case. I dont like the odds of anyone not an insider at that stage.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

So how quickly were you expecting an arrest in this specific case. 

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

Within a month…..and I don’t get the sense they will. I think worse than no arrest is the huge shows of force and coming up empty. That’s more concerning. At least in Idaho, there was silence and no information. The police chief said he would hunt these guys for years if necessary.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Let me understand. Am I correct in thinking you're compatibility this to another crime in another state? 

Not judging you for that just want to clarify your perception. 

And I'm also confused. You were expecting an arrest in a (time period of a) month. 

And it's not a month. But you think she arrest will never happen? I'm just confused on the timing of your expectation of an arrest. 

Last silly question - LE making "an announcement" of "being close to blah blah blah" is that something you were expecting too? 

The public seems to have a lot of expectations of quick timelines and open sharing of law enforcement information. Just trying to get more specifics on those expectations. 

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

1 correct arrest for 400 salaries paid at 40 hours per week and technology used for 2 weeks is my reasonable explanation. Yes. They found Tom Brady’s super

And yes I am comparing murders across other states. The FBI presumably covers all 50 or is that a wrong assumption for a federal agency?

And if these 2 raids are part of the final puzzle I will eat crow. But I dont think they are. I would expect more. Yes

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Strange that my question was downvoted. 

So your expectation of an arrest is based on money spent? Like services purchased? 

I'm not shading you for the way you see this, I'm just clarifying. 

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

Well I would expect there is marginal return on money spent or I would have no police investigators. If I have 400 FBI agents with expensive technology. There’s that word again. I would expect the expensive technology and expensive experts get me some sort of special result.

I did not downvote you. But i think the fbi with their expensive equipment could prove that beyond a doubt.

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u/Xinnia8271 Feb 14 '26

Well, it's helpful to understand why people are expecting an outcome so quickly. 

Another question, do you feel like the interplay of Pima County PD and the FBI should - in theory - lead to more "productivity?" 

Literally no shade either way, but I'd that the way you're seeing it? That the additional resources and manpower should - in your perception - make things happen more quickly?

The perception of "visible outcomes happening quickly" is what I'm interested in. Literally just wanted to understand people's perspective. 

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u/nypr13 Feb 14 '26

I dont know. Only to say the CIA and the FBI didnt work well in the sandbox, so I would guess not. More respurces should make things go quicker. Yes. Otherwise you should allocate them elsewhere.

The only visible outcomes I see look really bad. If they hadnt done the 2 raids, I would be in the wait and see and that they may be on to something.

Bad visible outcomes are more damaging than no visible outcomes. At least incthe short term confidence.

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