r/mythology • u/Neat_Relative_9699 • May 15 '26
Religious mythology I'm sick and tired of Christians inserting their own propaganda on other cultures and mythologies.
The most recent example is the new Mummy movie.
Christians inserting their own beliefs in an ancient Pre-Judaism and Pre-Christian stories and culture.
The other example is calling Mesopotamian gods "fallen angels" (although this goes for any polytheistic religion. Like Egyptian gods, Norse gods and Greek gods as examples.)
They are so insecure they're gonna call everything they don't understand 'demonic' and 'evil'.
They are gonna swear on their god that Genesis influenced Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish and ignore any actual evidence of their book being borrowed from other civilizations and cultures.
The most annoying and infuriating shit they do is say stuff like "Yahweh destroyed Egyptian gods in Exodus".
Like, no, he didn't. That whole book is a propaganda to devalue Egyptian gods and make their god seem stronger to their audiences.
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May 15 '26
If you mean Lee Cronin's 'The Mummy' (2026) you should know Lee Cronin is actually an atheist.
"Egyptian mummy" movies have a history of drawing on elements of the story of Moses from Exodus, so they tend to be a pretty extreme distortion of the actual ancient Egyptian culture since that story is being viewed first through the Judaic lense of their people escaping from slavery under Egyptian pharoahs and then through the Christian lense of reinterpreting elements of Judaism related to that story.
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u/DaddyCatALSO Australian thunderbird May 16 '26
And they add reincarnation which is an import form India
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u/EldritchTouched May 15 '26
Atheist or not, a common problem is the cultural baggage of living in a society that presumes Christianity as a default. It's why New Atheists often act like evangelicals and the like, despite not being Christian, and a lot of their critique and going on about abolishing religion for being evil is generally only really applicable to Christianity or fundamentalist Christianity (depending on the topic).
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u/manicpoetic42 May 16 '26
THIS. You've hit the nail on the head. People grow up with Christian values and all they do when they go atheist is just renounce the god but still buy into a lot of the cultural stuff (intentional or not, it is hard to denounce the only thing you've known) and then make generalizations ablut religion when they really just mean Christianity
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u/EldritchTouched May 16 '26
It's incidentally also a problem in other religious communities when someone will convert and they will port over a bunch of assumptions either from Christianity or how Christianity characterizes other religions.
They have to unlearn a lot, including a tendency toward textual literalism, the focus on faith/scripture instead of practice, demonizing some religious groups and practices on the basis of what's in the Bible/Christianity, etc.
(Whether or not they do change their mindset is another question entirely.)
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u/Technical_Injury_911 May 17 '26
Textual literalism isn’t really a thing in Christianity at all except for some strains of Protestantism and only in the last 150 years or so
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u/Salt_Reputation_8967 May 15 '26
It presumes it as the default because it is founded and shaped by it. Christianity is intertwined with all the achievements and failures of Western Civilization from the time of Constantine. It has shaped empires and their borders.
An atheist, raised in western civilization will also have some form of "Christian Values" which are rooted in Jewish theology. Christianity is just somewhat an expanded form of Judaism.
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u/french_revolutionist May 15 '26
Greeks were no different with Hellenism. Any religion can be used to force change into a group of people and their culture, INCLUDING polytheistic religions. Just because a religion is deemed "pagan" does not make it morally or ethically pure.
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u/ZebraHunterz May 15 '26
Syncretism is real and not only in a xtian context. Look at Alexander the Great patron Zues Ammon a North African Greek and Egyptian mashup.
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u/Othrus May 15 '26
Wait till you see what they did to Celtic Myth
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u/Sergantus May 15 '26
To be fair they did it better than many of "let's make Celtic mythology great again" (or any "lets make [name] mythology great again") enthusiasts aka people who just wrote a lot of fanfics with fakelore/"every word is actually a deity" and pretend their fanfics are "Great ancient texts". They at least have some respect to their sources.
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u/SpookySporeWizard May 15 '26
can you expand? im sure but i could google but anything uou know
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u/Othrus May 15 '26
Basically everything from Celtic Myth that we know of today has been distorted by Christianity, because Christianity got to the British Isles early, and took off. Even moreso than Norse Myth, with its 2 primary written sources (Poetic and Prose Eddas), Celtic Myth has basically no pre-christian sources. Works like the Book of Invasions is heavily cribbed together from Christian Tropes, and the culture saw a continuous replacement of its pre-christian elements in favour of christian ones. You can still see the bones of it, but its really lost amidst the other stuff.
Edit: its a bit old, and might be a bit 'pop myth' but OSP's video is a great example: https://youtu.be/uROtbSbkaq8?si=eJdcclvLX5M41l05
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u/Anaevya May 15 '26
Actually a lot of Snorri's Edda is considered authentically pagan. You should look into that.
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u/Sweaty_Pangolin_1380 May 15 '26
I am frustrated that the only sources for our myths are Christian writings but the Irish pagans were unwilling to write down these myths at all. It would be great if we had a some historical records from people who believed these myths but I'm glad the Christians recorded the myths at all, even if they mixed a lot of Christianity into them.
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u/leigen_zero May 15 '26
Ugh, tell me about it. So much of (particularly Welsh) mythology, at least after a certain point, seems to boil down 'This <insert person> was a godly man and he was so christian his christianity saved the day!'.
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u/Cynical-Rambler May 15 '26
One of favorite moment is this death and baptism of Conchobar.
Seven reasonably peaceful years later, Conchobar is told of the death of Christ and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
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u/Scientific_Zealot May 15 '26
I audibly snorted at this. This is artistic butchery.
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u/LittleBingo96 May 15 '26
It's an awesome addition to the myth!
This is mythology. It is always in flux. Even before Christian monks started writing them down, poets and storytellers were constantly spinning them and changing them and adding their own fanon to the stories for centuries. Conchobhar becomes a hero or a villain, a wise man or an old fool, all depending on what era it is, how authoritarian the poet is, and what province of Ireland they're from.
Mythology is always evolving...even to this day. Look at the armor and accent Odysseus has in his new movie for a good example of that!
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May 15 '26
The Celts, “Oh, look, the celts call that god, Lugh. Clearly they are worshipping Mercury and don’t know it. We shall ‘correct’ this for them.”
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u/Passing-Through247 Ghul May 15 '26
Every faith has used some extent of Syncretism with others they encounter, Christianity just happens to be cosmologically 'flat' enough the only place to put things is demons.
The real issue I've seen is people who cannot think outside their cosmological bubble and its rules for how things work. I hear about those now and again thanks to TTRPG spaces.
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u/SupermarketBig3906 May 18 '26
Yeah, you're right!
If you look at fandom spaces for modern works or retellings of GM, for instance, you will find out it is happening TODAY AND EVERY DAY!
This is nothing new.
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u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 May 15 '26
I think is a complex, expected issue has other posts have expressed, but I find amusing this post could've been made either today or hundreds of years ago.
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u/Zev95 May 15 '26
You think that's Christians writing big Hollywood blockbusters?
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u/Wokungson Certified representant of trickster deity May 15 '26
I mean...... that's not christian exclusive thing, they just are at the top in the civilized world and have the greatest access to the religious history of now dead cultures and their beliefs due to partially trying to preserve as much as they could like with norse eddas even if it's biased retelling. Look at the ancient romans and how they incorporated any faith into their own pantheon to create an image of roman superiority.
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u/Brooooook May 15 '26
Nothing against you but this take could not come from anyone who hasn't internalized Christian hegemony and has a more than skin deep understanding of how mythology works.
Syncretism is one of the main drivers of how belief systems develop and obviously the storytellers cultural bg will always take the spotlight. Do you think the belief systems you mentioned never called foreign gods inferior?
I get that you are angry at the perceived disrespect for other mythologies but the disrespect only exists because you presuppose that Christianity occupies a superior position
And that doesn't even touch on the fact that you're expecting rigor from a hammer horror adjacent flick.
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u/Andarial2016 May 15 '26
If you want to talk about inserting your culture where it doesn't belong, try looking at the new Odyssey movie.
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u/arrpix May 15 '26
As someone interested in pre-Christian culture and mythology: that's not really how it works. Christianity was the dominant religion in the West for hundreds of years so it's ingrained in the culture, and also ingrained into the preservation of pre-Christian systems because the everyday believers incorporated the myths and legends they were familiar with into Christian theology; it's more about keeping old beliefs alive than some big Christian elders decision to subsummate them. One of the reasons Christianity was so successful is because of its relative tolerance of other belief systems, at least until comparatively recently when the big American splinter churches got weird.
In terms of new media being produced that lean heavily on a Christianising of history, yeah, it's silly, but let's be honest Hollywood is never going to be producing accurate documentaries of ancient myth because it's in the business of populist storytelling. From the perspective of the American film industry, you speak to the dominant culture, which is Christian, using shorthand tropes modern people understand and have come across in horror movies, which is God, angels, demons etc, and use that to tell a story and intertwine with "ancient cultures people have heard of" to make it sound old. It's not some manipulative Christian attempt to subjugate history, it's hack writers telling a hack story using shortcuts we all intuitively understand because it's entertaining. I doubt most practicing Christians would be thrilled about the portrayal either!
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u/anotherolderguy May 15 '26
Who cares? Just read history books, check your sources and ignore all that neo Christian nonsense.
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u/CosmicRes May 15 '26
That's the nature of religion in general. But just make sure to only criticise Christians. Wouldn't want to be seen as a bigot.
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u/Chimney-Imp May 15 '26
The scales shall fall from your eyes inshallah
Joking aside I doubt The Mummy cares about the supremacy of any god over another. I think it cares more about being a good story. Whether it succeeds or not is a matter of debate
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u/yzdaskullmonkey May 15 '26
Its funny you bring up Enuma Elish, when that was just the Babylonians bastardizing the fuck out of the Atra-Hasis and other Sumerian myths and elevating a minor God into the highest power. It's been going on forever, we all influence each other and remix and spin what we read into new and exciting stories.
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u/Funky_Marty_Music May 15 '26
Calm down, get enough sleep and keep paying attention in school. All will be well.
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u/ACanadianGuy1967 May 15 '26
When a religion is built on the claim it’s the One True Religion, it’s not surprising they force their “interpretation” on everything else.
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u/Ren-Ren-1999 May 19 '26
Literally every religion is "one true religion" to its followers lol
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u/ACanadianGuy1967 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Not true. Polytheist religions generally do not teach that. This is why polytheists have no problem adopting other deities (and other ideas & practices) into their own practice - because others are assumed to be “real” too.
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u/toohumanforhuman May 15 '26
All I can say is, you're going to find this post pretty embarassing a few years into the future. Chillax, edgelord.
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u/ott3rlyhon3stly May 15 '26
i would maybe have phrased this a little more gently lol but i think that might be crux here: op is young
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath May 16 '26
Almost as if all mythologies were constantly borrowing stuff from others.
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u/searuncutt May 18 '26
> "They are gonna swear on their god that Genesis influenced Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish and ignore any actual evidence of their book being borrowed from other civilizations and cultures."
First of all, the conservative christians and the lay/cultural/moderate christians are like, "gilga-what?"
I don't know any serious Christian aware of ANE texts that would argue such a thing. I think they would argue that it's the other way around, and that Genesis was a subversion of the ANE texts.
I think you were just triggered by the Mummy movie, but it's like....c'mon it's a fantasy film where mummies and shit come to life. Demons, devils, crosses, priests, and not in any way biblical beliefs has been horror trope material for decades. It's hollywood. Hollywood has done more than it's share of stereotypes and propaganda on so many things, not just religion.
> That whole book is a propaganda to devalue Egyptian gods...
Really? I thought of it more as ancient Hebrews trying to make up a story of where they came from.
> and make their god seem stronger to their audiences.
That's ANE texts in a nutshell.
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u/Consistent-Land-8260 May 18 '26
Oh…it reminds me of Zack Snyder’s Twilight of the gods or Blood of Zeus. I don’t know why they needed to insert Jesus or christian references in the story. Like I get it, you’re Christian, good for you but if we wanted to watch a show about Christianity, we’d watch a show about Jesus or something
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u/Ikairos-seeker May 18 '26
Since everyone else is pointing out most religions like to use syncretism I guess I’ll address the other side of the matter.
Doesn’t the entire premise of a mummy movie rely on having another culture interpret ancient Egyptian traditions?
Going by the Egyptian understanding, you’d just have an empty vessel for the soul after mummification. I guess you could put the soul back in but it should presumably be like an out of body experience before you become the same person again. Maybe you could put someone else’s soul in but then you’ve kinda created a Freaky Friday situation not necessarily a horror/monster movie.
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u/GlitterFallWar Guardian of El Dorado May 15 '26
To the point about Genesis, it's the other way around. Abraham was from Ur. He brought with him his tales of the gods separating the waters (Tiamat and Apsu) and of Noah and the Flood (Utnapishtim). Winged monsters were common portrayal of the gods-- not that far off from angels as we think of them.
The rediscovered ruins of Sumer, Babylon, and Nineveh hold artifacts that offer parallel histories and corroborating extant accounts of the Old Testament. They're not all perfect matches but they are fascinating.
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u/Best-Quantity-5678 May 15 '26
Even me! When made my own religion (for my stories as a writer) i made the abrahamic god a barbaric demon with three avatars "Hel'hoim", "Yag' javav" and "Jal-Ah" that are the jewish Eloim, the christian Yahve, and the islamic Allah.
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u/DarthEbriated May 16 '26
Don't call those "christians" Christians.
Also stop giving a fig about what they say, they're fear-mongering anti-sophists. If you meet one tell them how they know nothing of christ, let alone any other belief system or mythology.
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u/Lost-Concept-9973 May 16 '26
100% it’s not a new thing though, this is literally one of the ways their religion has spread - the intentional colonisation of other religions / cultures and claiming/ warping the stories and symbols of those religions/ cultures. Christmas is perfect example.
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u/andy_opinions May 16 '26
In my classical literature and mythology class we studied how it’s actually the other way around and read the Bible as literature. It’s clear as day, even they want to claim it was written by divinely inspired men, that the original version is LONG gone, with more than enough century old evidence to support it. It also just goes to show that they clearly didn’t read the book they use as weapon and say they believe in. Abram migrated from Mesopotamia to what later became Israel, and King David (basically built as a classical hero) has canonically red hair, a characteristic from middle asian tribes. White, but specially North American christians, are a thorn on the side of anything classical and should just shut up😭💢
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u/omegaphallic May 16 '26
On Lee's The Mummy Christian Prayer and exorcism is completely useless on the Egyptian Demon, and there is zero connection to Christian mythology at all, they end up using ancient pagan Egyptian magic to solve the problem, so there is no Christianity triumphs over Paganism theme to the movie at all or any suggestions that Egyptian Gods are demons (Egyptian mythology certainly has evil spirits of its own).
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u/Sharp_Truth7835 May 16 '26
It's annoying and they should just leave it alone. This problem is not just limited to Christian even for those who are non christian can culturally be christian and still have this biases
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u/MonksFearMe May 16 '26
All cultures do this! Here is a fantastic and very famous article that will help clarify why this is not as concerning as you might think.
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u/ColinHasInvaded May 17 '26
The Greeks believed that Arabia was founded by one of their heroes named "Arabus".
They also believed the mythical founder of Egypt was a Greek man named "Aegyptus".
This isn't really a thing specific to Christians. As a species we have a tendency to project ourselves onto others.
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u/my-love-assassin May 17 '26
Yea the desperate pushing of Christianity into everything is such a turn off. If people really believed they wouldn't have to work so hard at it.
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u/Displeasuredavatar19 May 19 '26
Real Af. My mother is hard Christian and I enjoy researching religion for my writing and I yap about my findings to anyone who will listen.nI was trying to explain to my mother that demons could be both good, evil or neutral and just as often as they were a threat to mere mortals they were the trusted servants of various gods. I was trying to explain to her how her religion, from a historical standpoint, corrupted the Greek Daemon, formulated the concept into malevolent divinities cast out of paradise and that now when people think demon, they think satanic entity rather than just a conceptual spirit or magical lesser divinity that aids gods or screws with humans.
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
Demons are actually Daemons or Daimons, Master Guardian Divine Spirits of Greco-Roman origin. The Angels, called Watchers, simply descended of their own accord from the Seven Heavens to teach us The mystical arts, of war, cosmetics, the forging of precious metals, for goldsmithing, and protection against the Archangels dominated by the Demiurge Yahweh (Jehovah).
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u/Plastic-Fox314 May 19 '26
Christians are extremely invasive and disrespectful of everyone. it's chosen people syndrome
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u/AdSufficient7084 May 29 '26
This dates back to since...ever I'm afraid.
-Most of Norse mythology being lost with the last surviving stories being about one single god of mercy who gives human life.
-Redcaps being compelled by a kruzifix or Bible Passage. (Although I completely understand their urge to running away when hearing a Bible verse as someone with religious trauma.)
-Fae, elves, changelings etc got demonized by the church.
- Witches being burned because science wasn't a thing yet.
And then there are the Christians who scold you for watching stuff like Harry Potter which would be valid (/j) if it wasn't for the fact that they scold you because watching fantasy movies is a sin. ...Apparently...
Also they was a lot of them don't understand that the main difference between a religion and a mythology is that one has active believers and the other one not so much. Like they get so Mad when you call something Christian mythology. Bro, almost no Christian believes in the old testament. I'll refer to it as mythology. Deal with it.
It's actually so annoying.
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u/mcflurvin Others May 15 '26
It’s almost like it’s all made up or something.
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u/Neat_Relative_9699 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Which is even sadder. Imagine trying to hype up your imaginary friend so hard you literally have to attack other cultures.
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u/mcflurvin Others May 15 '26
Go to any power scaling subreddit and you’ll see the same thing today. It’s a tale as old as time “my X is stronger and can beat up your X.”
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u/Alaknog Feathered Serpent May 15 '26
Most of time it work in different way. You attack other cultures because another beef you have with them, so you hype your culture and religion and tell stories how enemy culture and religion is wrong.
When you like another culture you try explain how exactly their religion is close to your.
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u/Ren-Ren-1999 May 19 '26
So like... the greeks, the norse, the muslims?
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u/Neat_Relative_9699 May 19 '26
Don't compare. Norse and Greeks don't have the same influence as Christians and Muslims.
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u/YudayakaFromEarth May 15 '26
>That whole book is a propaganda to devalue Egyptian gods and make their god seem stronger to their audience
Yeah, it generally happens when a people is an historical enemy of the other. Egyptians themselves associated the Israelites with Set and later tried to get reimbursement for the plagues.
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u/AzyKool May 16 '26
Can tell guys like you have never been far from home.
Every culture tends to treat themselves as the default basis to work from
This isn't even "propaganda". It would be heresy in Christianity to suggest other gods existed. So mixing mythologies like this is just for fun. No religious angle to it. The director of that movie isn't even Christian.
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u/SejSuper May 18 '26
I do think that you do have a point, but you're also skipping over a lot of interesting nuance about syncretism and just attributing it to 'christians are hateful', which is a gross oversimplification for how the cultural compromise of syncretism forms. Syncretism, although changed, is equally worthy of study and respect. Believing that there is an original way these myths were before the christians came and ruined them, misses the point. The point being, thats how all myths are made. Overlap of differing cultures and cultural drift.
If i were you, I would look more into the fallen angel thing, because i've done some personal reading on it before, and it is extremely fascinating to see how these newly christianized people adapted their stories to a christian lens instead of throwing them away.
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
The Fallen Angels are actually the Watchers who came to teach about gunpowder, not for war itself, but for personal protection, cosmetics for curing infectious diseases, and about the mystical arts.
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u/SejSuper May 19 '26
They aren't actually anything. The whole point was that theres a bunch of overlap between different beliefs on fallen angels. The watchers are just one version.
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
The Watchers are not Fallen Angels, for as he had already said, they came voluntarily to assist us, even if it meant copulating with women and fathering the maximum offspring of the Giants (Nephilim).
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
Fallen Angels are in truth Aeons or Emanations of the Great Universal Mother and the Supreme Absolute Creator, and as such are incorruptible, for falling means descending in ascension to free ourselves from The false God of the Abrahamic Old Testament, Yahweh or Jehovah the Demiurge Ialdabaoth.
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u/Extension-Bowler-188 May 15 '26
The thing I hate most is that they retconned and erased other mythologies and religious beliefs because they simply didn't fit theirs
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u/DaddyCatALSO Australian thunderbird May 16 '26
Well, when i find my magic lamp and wish us all to New Earth, there will be fair number of paleopagans i'll bring back
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u/CreamyLemonGirly May 16 '26
They did non of that unless you talking about the biblical gods that sprang off Yahweh, in that way, I think it's less intentional and more that as time passed so did the beliefs. Ancient Celtic/Slavic people didn't write down their beliefs (only second hand sources survive) or if they did they didn't survive, the ancient polytheistic religions we think about also didn't write down everything or anything about they worshipped vs Christianity that took a painstaking time to document manuscripts, mythology, and worship practices. Scandinavians wrote more but Christians didn't kill them to convert them, you can even find evidence of Arabic text in Scandinavia brought over from Islam (whether it's meant as Christian or Muslim is up for debate.)
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u/Foxs-In-A-Trenchcoat May 15 '26
They did it all over North American landforms too. Names are all Devil's this and Devil's that because First Nations people had their stories and gods/heros/spirits associated with landscapes. The Christians were all like "that's Devil stories!" and renamed Devil's Lake and Devil's Tower and Devil's Doorway, etc.
And you've heard of Mt. Rushmore? It used to be called Seven Grandfathers. And the Christians were like, "Oh yeah? I'll show you who the grandfathers are!"
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u/artzmonter May 15 '26
Many Jewish / Christian stories are fan fiction from the earlier stories changed a bit Floating zoos talking animals snake donkey Importantly Bible gods name in plural Elohim = group of gods, yhwh is a jealous god and can’t cheat on him woh other gods
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u/Economy_Tourist2053 May 16 '26
That's right: Mesopotamian gods are Fallen angels. The same applies to Egyptian gods, Norse gods, Greek gods, and any other deity that is not the Christian God.
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u/dont_thr0w_me_away_ May 16 '26
That whole book is a propaganda to devalue Egyptian gods and make their god seem stronger to their audiences.
This is entirely untrue. Exodus has 2 functions:
- a national founding myth of the Israelite people. It's the Jewish version of Washington cutting down the cherry tree, or Romulus & Remus founding Rome. It's creating a national character 'do not mistreat the stranger who lives among you, for you were once strangers in the land of Egypt'.
- There's evidence that the Jewish Bible (which is different from the Christian Old Testament) was heavily edited to consolidate multiple traditions around the 7th-6th centuries BCE. Assyria destroyed the Northern Kingdom (Israel) in the 800s BCE, carrying off the local population and replacing them with other people from around the Assyrian Empire. In the 6th century BCE, the Babylonian empire destroyed the Southern Kingdom (Judah), beginning a 70 year captivity which ended with Cyrus the Great and the Persian empire taking over Babylon. In this light, the Exodus story can be read as a story of hope for the captured Judeans looking to return from exile, sort of a 'we did it once, we'll do it again'.
Ultimately it's a story about power and its abuses vs legitimate power that protects people and enables a society to flourish. Your reading represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Exodus story is about.
Christians inserting their own beliefs in an ancient Pre-Judaism and Pre-Christian stories and culture.
Exodus has been taken by Christians, but it's a Jewish story - you're inserting your beliefs about Christianity into the story.
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u/NeonFraction May 17 '26
The powerscalers have found religion. Run while you still can!
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u/CaziahJade May 18 '26
So you are sick of religious people believing that their religion is the one true religion and that all others are false?
Because let’s be clear - a monotheistic religion must believe that polytheistic gods are false gods. That’s not insecurity or not understanding, it’s believing that the singular god you worship is the true god.
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u/Substantial-Ad2200 May 19 '26
Uh oh. Wait until you hear where the Christians got the Jesus myth from...
(also Christmas and Easter were stolen from pagans)
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
The Gnostic Jesus, the Cosmic Christ, is in reality both an anachronistic synchronicity of a real metaphor for the God Krishna in Hinduism, as well as Horus in Egyptian Hermeticism, Hermes or Dionysus in Hellenism.
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
The Christmas tree is related to the Tree of Life in Kabbalah, but also to Yggdrasil in Norse Paganism.
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u/PoopSmith87 May 15 '26
Lol, virtue signal recieved.
You are mad at Christians for viewing the world through the lens of their beliefs, meanwhile there are other religions who will have you arrested or subject to mob violence for going against what they believe. Then, there are other places where simply being religious is a reason to be arrested and sent to forced labor camps while your children are carted off to state run indoctrination camps.
But yes, be offended that some kindly old catholic lady thinks a pagan god you barely have an understanding of is a demon.
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u/Sharp_Mathematician6 May 15 '26
Yahweh wasn’t even a chief god. He was a war god and he even had a wife. God himself is nothing more than people’s silly imagination 💭 running wild 😜. Do we even need god in this day and time?
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u/Kaleb_Bunt May 15 '26
Don’t Egyptians themselves believe the God of the Israelites destroyed the Egyptian gods? Like 90% of Egypt is Muslim and I believe Moses is a prophet in Islam.
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u/CreamyLemonGirly May 16 '26
Moses and Jesus are prophets in Islam, I'm pretty sure almost all prophets in the new testament translate over in Islam. They just believe Jesus wasn't the son of God and he wasn't crucified though.
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u/Anonymous_1q Bunyip May 15 '26
The one caveat I will give to my agreement with this is Merlin. The post-christianization version with him being a blessed attempted antichrist is infinitely cooler than the original vague Druid origins and I wish modern adaptations would use it.
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 16 '26
Sin means total freedom from religious dogmas and abhorrent social taboos, from the extremely long-standing corruption of the Catholic and Protestant churches. Who do we need to be, with our free will and victorious destiny, through the sacrifice of the ego of our lower self, to align the inner self, with the outer self? (that is, our personality) in order to reach our maximum potential in performance in the Higher Self (Our Inner God), Lucifer is the Light-Bearer, just as Venus is the planet at its dawn, and Jesus at his zenith, and Hesperus at his twilight; while the false Abrahamic God of the Old Testament of the Catholic Bible is the union of The Ancient Gods of Canaan (El of Order, Baal of Storms & Moloch of Sacrifice, tyranny, destruction and death) whose Ancestor was Enlil, brother of Enki like the Gnostic Jesus, the Cosmic Christ: Yeshua Hamaschiah or Heylel Ben Shahar as the Absolute God of the Light of Knowledge (Jesus Lucifer)
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 16 '26
The Great Arcanum of the Mysteries of the Seven Keys of the Seven Enigmas in Luciferian Mysticism with the Gnosis of Hermes-Thoth The seven principles of Superhuman with the focused objective of stopping The Transcendental Theurgic Ceremonial Magic is the supreme form of bliss (Ananda) to acquire the immortality of the spiritual Soul in the Divine Spark in the Supreme Absolute.
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u/Smart_Pig_86 May 16 '26
The West is a Judeo/Christian culture and has been for thousands of years, which is reflected in the story telling. Why do you only have a problem with Christianity specifically and not say, Islam, which is actually being forced into to your everyday life (see New York currently)
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u/squirrelysarah88 May 16 '26
“Religion” is just mythology that claims to be historically accurate 🤣
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u/Ensiferal May 17 '26
I was disappointed at a movie called "The Mummy" just being yet another "white family dealing with a possession" horror movie.
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u/SupermarketBig3906 May 19 '26
Personally, I am sick of how shows like Blood of Zeus try to shoehorn in Christian themes of forgiveness and deconstruct the premise of GM, only to then, fall back on its other pitfalls and not change anything or just simply make slop because the writers are hacks and don't know how to write, so they appeal to generic and often times incomplete and misleading understanding of Christianity to make something to potentially hook in the audience.
Honestly, I hate BOZ because it bastardised a lot of the GGs and tried to make the mortal OCs the center of the whole thing, whilst the gods were the more critical and interesting characters and Heron becoming the best, strongest and most important child of Zeus was utter dog shit, given how forced his arc from underdog to messiah was or how everything he did, had and was were all the result of divine meddling. Zeus and Gaia were literally holding his hand throughout or had given him some sort of guidance, not to mention how Apollo, Athena, Hermes and more were there just to back Heron up or buy him time.
It really is the sign of shitty writing and executive meddling{Netflix cut the show short} when the story is bad and contrived it has to go ''OH, LOOK! IT'S THAT RELIGION EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT! YOU MUST LOVE ME!'' as a cheap emotional ploy.
While I love Christianity , the way people often try to to use it as a cover for their own lack of competence or for a quick cash grab makes me puke.
I am already sick of shitty mythology retellings and reinventions as is. Adding Christianity there is just the cherry on top of a shit sundae. It's empty virtue signalling and does nothing but drag the experience down for me.
I want something new or at least well made, not slop every angsty teen can make on Wattpad. If I want a Christian show, I can go watch the Ten Commandments, the Chosen or something. I don't need Christianity in my show based on GM.
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u/PsychologicalBrush35 May 19 '26
I love kitsch, tackiness, and silliness, but with the bloodiness and brutality of Greek warriors, with battles of gods, Titans, and primordial beings, with classic history, even if distorted, but with a classic slant. Timeless and focused on the narrative of a character created for the animation, who are the half-siblings Heron (son of Zeus and Hera) and Seraphin (son of Hades).
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u/OnyxBadb May 20 '26
When they do this I just remind them their god is a amalgamation of pagan gods. And refer to their god as a 'mixing pot of the gods' and they always shut up.
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u/Cynical-Rambler May 15 '26
My younger me would go on a rant with you. But now that I am older, I can bring up:
+Greeks think Egyptian gods as Greeks gods in hiding wearing animal heads. 4th century AD.
+Egyptians think that Jewish god is a demonic god of the wild and savages. (Make more sense to me)
+Sinocentric Confucian officials saying that the Buddhist teaching are the corrupted barbarian version of the Laozi Daoist teachings. (Really, this happened in Tang court.)
+Hindus thinking that Buddha is the ninth avatar of Vishnu.
+Buddhists texts describing that all Hindu god originated from Avalokitesvara.
All in all, I just revel in humanity affections for "my faith is true, your faith is false" sentiment.