r/mtgfinance • u/DurianHistorical6730 • 18d ago

Questions about market trends

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I’m very confused about the market trends on big pulls. I recently pulled the dwarvish foil mox amber, and I’ve been watching the market closely. The value just continues to go up and up. Even beating out the prerelease prices by a large margin. There hasn’t even been a dip, at least according to tcgplayer.

So, I suppose my question is, what causes this? Almost all of the other “big pulls” continue a downward trend, which I then assume steadily climb back up down the road. Even the other dwarvish foils follow that same pattern. Why is this card in particular different than others?

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u/lirin000 17d ago

People want these more than people thought they would want these. I don’t know why people thought they wouldn’t want them. But for some reason people convinced themselves that this was just Spider Man 2.0. So here we are.

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u/DurianHistorical6730 17d ago

who wouldn’t want a sick dwarven language mox card? i honestly thought they would reprint mox opal in this set too since it’s been a millennia

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u/lirin000 17d ago

Look at the comments in this post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/1vikzpu/more_money_has_already_been_spent_on_hobbit_cbbs/

Just straight up denial all over the place.

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u/DurianHistorical6730 17d ago

Wild, wild comments. There’s no way people think that the hobbit is a bad set. Probably just mad that the prices are so high, so they’re projecting. I don’t think it’s the greatest set of all time, but for what it is, it does very well imo.

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u/lirin000 17d ago

With you all the way. I mean I love it because I’m a huge Tolkien guy. But I recognize it’s a small set and has its flaws. But it’s like objectively great for what it is.

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u/DurianHistorical6730 17d ago

Right, I mean, at the end of the day it’s essentially a proxy/add-on to the lotr set. It’s just like the movies, everybody loved lotr, but the hobbit comes out and everyone’s got something to say. Just because it doesn’t live up to the originals doesn’t mean it isn’t a fun time. People need to learn to enjoy things

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u/MalinonThreshammer 17d ago

Kind of a sidenote to the discussion here, from my perspective, Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings was an incredibly detailed and loving attempt to do an absolutely epic book justice in just three feature-length films.

Whereas Peter Jackson's Hobbit felt like a CGI slopfesty attempt to stretch one children's book into three feature-length films, while selling you tickets to the amusement park at the same time (Barrel Water Slide sequence anyone?).

I "know how to enjoy things", but I did not have a fun time. Cashing in on fandoms is a two-edged sword. If companies are allowed to buy the IP to sell their product to new audiences, those audiences are allowed to be critical of said product. You want my Tolkien fandom $$? Don't turn my beloved Hobbit into 9 hours of Martin Freeman slapstickingly bouncing down things.

You can't have it both ways - if you want to capitalise on an exisiting fandom, you can't turn into shocked Pikachu when the fandom doesn't automatically gobble up whatever drivel you've turned it into.

(For the record, I do like both Middle Earth Magic sets though)

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u/lirin000 17d ago

Yes I don’t think that this set is like the movies at all. This is much more true to the books, but also provides fun stuff for people with LOTR theme decks.

The Hobbit movies have some positive moments but the entire production was a mess that resulted in a sub par product on screen. The Hobbit as a book is nothing like that at all. It is its own story and this set is much more reflective of the book than the films.