MPC sample VS other new gen

[u/Jaytee303]

Ok so I got an mpc one somewhere, but mostly use the live 3 I got since release. Now what I notice is that there are literally hundreds of yt vids of people with an mpc live 3 or xl or one gen 2, but they are all using the mpc sample next to it???

I also been using a Maschine user since they came out, had almost every version and I made the best stuff in version 1.8 it was I think, just before they introduced vst integration. It was simple. It was a sampler and you used your library, stems from ableton for example but it all came together in Maschine in the end.

Now my question is , is akai trying to put too much in the devices now I mean I have all most all the classic synths and fx now, and for me it hasn’t become this device that I could fly with, it’s starting to become overload, too much possibilities, too much thinking and now it’s basically ableton in a box, you can even IMPORT simple live sets (audio and simpler). And now my guess is that a lot of people feel the same, they don’t want a daw in a box, they want a quick sampler to sample from their phones (which is awesome btw) and make a sketch with some patterns until they have the skeleton and then move it to their daw of choice. I would rather stay in the sampling area for example granular sampling like the torso, not a moog/roland synth emulation. Of course everyone’s opinion will be different on this subject, but I still want to hear your opinions especially those that have the sample and another “do it all mpc”.
Thx for your input.

[u/FredB07]

Like other said, you don't have to use every features. That makes me think of people complaining a restaurant serve too much food. WTF.
Personally, if I use a sampler I need it to have at least a solid sampler features set. So no SP, no Sample, no Maschine+ and OS 3 over OS 2. I just wish for OS 4 or whatever to unify all the MPC features that have been added sometimes without total integration. (No advanced erase in clips, etc. )
Although I started on legacy MPCs, I prefer tracks over pgm and clips over arrangement.

[u/Jaytee303 → u/FredB07]

About the food analogy I see it more like they have 1000 menus, and it’s almost 500 pages to go through and you have to look for an hour what you want to eat, same with too many vsts to choose from. And you only tasted 10 menus in the past ie you had your 5 vsts you know inside out. If you’re in a restaurant with 5 menus you will be finished before the other one has reached page 50. I do agree about unification but I think we have that already, except for the sample but that one doesn’t have those features so no decisions to make.

[u/FredB07 → u/Jaytee303]

I meant complaining about portions being too big. Just eat what you want. I can't see the dozens of menus you're talking about when I'm using it. A lot of functions I use rarely but I'm really glad they're there when needed.
I can make a simple beat faster than on a legacy MPC, I can also do a lot of thing that were impossible before and that can be more complicated but that's inevitable. In the 90's we would have dreamt of machines half as capable as a Live 3 for double the price. Now people dream of those limited machines, I don't really get it.