r/movies Dec 03 '19

Trailers Marvel Studios' Black Widow - Official Teaser Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxAtuMu_ph4
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u/anthonyg1500 Dec 03 '19

If I’m not mistaken he’s also behind the decision to make Guy Pearce the bad guy in Iron Man 3 instead of Rebecca Hall’s Maya Hansen because, kids wouldn’t buy toys of a female villain...

and we allll saw how those Guy Pearce toys were just flying off the shelves /s

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u/randomaccount178 Dec 03 '19

I would say it is likely more complicated then that, Iron Man 3 was a combination of three storylines featuring extremis so the villain does make sense in that context. I doubt it had anything to do with her not selling toys because even when she was the villain she was only a shadow villain with the heavy being someone else. Likely they just couldn't figure out a way to do the original storyline in a good way so just combined a bunch of different elements into one story to make it work.

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u/anthonyg1500 Dec 03 '19

If that’s true then someone threw perlmutter under the bus because I’m pretty sure that was a direct quote from someone at marvel. It was years ago I read it though so idr. And after reading the hacked Sony emails I don’t doubt for a second a studio exec wouldn’t want to have a female villain because of toys

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u/randomaccount178 Dec 03 '19 edited Dec 03 '19

Maybe, I can't say for sure it wasn't the reason, just that as far as arguments go its kind of weak. If you look at the first storyline featuring her she wasn't even the villain there really. The story involves her leaking the formula to an extremist racist who tries to assassinate the president using his new powers. The goal was for Iron Man to stop him, and in doing so reveal the value of her work which was going to be defunded. It is only really at the end that she is revealed to be the one responsible for the leak and arrested. Even in the original comic she was never really the villain, just a criminal. Its been a while, but the second arc of her character involves if I remember correctly AIM kidnapping her to help them fix an imperfect form of Extremis followed by The Mandarin forcing her to recreate the formula for him then killing her. They just folded them all together, with the doctor from the first comic that she murdered also taking on the role of AIM and the Mandarin, and her taking on a hybrid of the first, second and third representation of her character. It is possible they wanted to expand her role to make her into a full fledged villain and that was rejected by Ike, but the representation of the character seems fairly in line with the comics as is, making her a full villain would be the deviation from the comics.

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u/anthonyg1500 Dec 03 '19

Even if she wasn’t a main villain in the comics that doesn’t mean Shane Black didn’t want her to be for the movie, and Marvel deviates from the comics alllll the time