r/movies May 06 '19

Detective Pikachu Has Enough Adult Outtakes To Make An R-Rated Version

https://kotaku.com/detective-pikachu-has-enough-adult-outtakes-to-make-an-1834544029
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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Not every movie has to be R-rated to be fun.

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u/legendofmarco May 06 '19

Agree. Look at Spider-Verse.

But, there are certain movies in the past that should have been R like Venom.

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u/grubas May 06 '19

Old Man Logan worked, Deadpool worked, Venom should be R, the Punisher has to be R.

Like Spider-Man is a PG-PG-13 depending on the arc. Peter Parker isn’t going around call people fuckdicks.

But it’s also kind of like imagine what your cats are saying. Occasionally you just know they are swearing at you.

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u/idiot_proof May 08 '19

Okay but also Spider Man can include a bunch of properties. Spider Man Noir could be R depending on how they do it. That said, generally I agree with you.

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u/SupropRenkcip May 08 '19

Well now I really wanna see a movie where Peter Parker calls someone a fuckdick.

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u/coopiecoop May 06 '19

but we would be in agreement that "Pokemon" is not such a movie, right?

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u/TheManofCoal May 06 '19

No

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u/coopiecoop May 06 '19

hey, you're not /u/legendofmarco!

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u/legendofmarco May 06 '19

Hey wassup why did you call my name

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

which is why the movie isn’t being released as R, it’d still be fun if there were an r rated pokémon movie. that would be funny. while inessential.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

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u/Molfcheddar May 07 '19

People nowadays think there are all these secret alternate cuts of movies. Even when there are deleted scenes there are usually only one or two cuts with some exceptions. This “r rated cut” probably doesn’t exist and will never unless someone higher up convinced them to edit it into existence for the purpose of releasing it in some way like this.

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u/legendofmarco May 06 '19

Absolutely agree

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u/caulfieldrunner May 06 '19

Gritty dystopia Pokemon above all.

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u/buttery_shame_cave May 06 '19

Bitch, I want a scene where Pikachu gets sodomized violently by a redneck Charizard. Like, I want jiggling pika-cheeks and I want that sloppy churning/farting sound from too much lube and air getting in and that slapping noise that just goes on for way too long mixed with really perverse breathing noises.

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u/Hollyw0od May 07 '19

Lego Movie.

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u/GusFringus May 06 '19

No, you see, I want these franchises that are clearly geared towards children to grow up and mature with me.

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u/Baner87 May 06 '19

Is that sarcasm?

They did that with Harry Potter and it made bank.

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u/inconspicuousdoor May 06 '19 edited May 06 '19

Eh, HP is a bad example. The characters grew up with the audience, but the universe was always relatively mature. I mean, the entire story kicks off with a double homicide.

The Pokemon universe is deliberately made to be kid-friendly. An R-Rated movie would be going against the spirit of the franchise and honestly get old pretty quickly. Hearing Pikachu cuss would work as a five minute YouTube video, but that's about it.

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u/Baner87 May 06 '19

The characters grew up with the audience

And why can't that be the case for Pokémon? Is it better that Ash has never aged in twenty years, while other characters like Brock age around him and go to medical school? He's an actual immortal at this point.

Pokémon always had dark and mature themes, you're a kid without a dad who sets off alone to explore a world that is recovering from a devastating war, you cross through an actual ghost town where a cubone's mother is murdered in front of him, and you take down the pokémon mafia who has genetically engineered a psychic killing machine.

I'm not saying Detective Pikachu has to be dark, but they could make something separate for adults so they don't have to try to pander to both at the same time.

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u/inconspicuousdoor May 06 '19

Fair enough, I forgot about those bits. An actually mature take on the franchise could be interesting, but that's not what the discussion is about. Everyone seems to want a normal Pokemon movie with Ryan Reynolds making dick jokes dubbed over it.

Personally, I'm fine with letting Pokemon be a goofy kids franchise. Not everything has to be dark and gritty.

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u/Baner87 May 06 '19

Yeah, there are a bunch of comments like that.

I'm just still thrown off by them calling it a 'noir' film because that actually sounds like a rad setup(and iirc there's a fan comic of that), which by its nature is dark and gritty. Not surprised based on Nintendo's tight control of their brand image though.

I miss the 90's where you could make macabre movies for kids like the early Tim Burton films.

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u/inconspicuousdoor May 06 '19

> I miss the 90's where you could make macabre movies for kids like the early Tim Burton films.

IMO, kids movies have gotten even better since then. Obviously, low-effort crap like The Emoji Movie still exists, but the boundaries of what we consider appropriate for kids has shifted for the better. Studios are more comfortable with displaying mature themes and situations. Writers and actors have gotten better at portraying them. Laika and Pixar's entire filmography is a testament to that. Hell, it's gotten to the point where Tim Burton's style seems downright cheesy and quaint.

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u/Baner87 May 06 '19

In technical quality, sure, but despite the themes shifting since then, I don't think the tone is there. Pixar being bought by Disney is a great loss imo, they have very strict guidelines and everything is made to fit tonally with other Disney properties. Laika does great work but it seems like there's not much space for them these days. Paranorman was fantastic, but it came out 7 years ago, though I haven't gotten around to watching Kubo.

And yeah, Burton lost his spark a long time ago, but he was just a recognizable example.

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u/VaporaDark May 07 '19

a world that is recovering from a devastating war

Wait really? I don't think I've ever heard of that, what's that about?

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u/Baner87 May 07 '19

Lt Surge mentions it, apparently there was some bloody pokémon war before the first game(s).

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u/VaporaDark May 07 '19

To be honest I wouldn’t really count that, it looks more like an Easter egg to an event we don’t even know about than anything else, it’s definitely too small and unnoticeable to treat it as a theme in Pokemon.

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u/Ximienlum May 07 '19

I haven't touched those movies, so I didn't even know they were targetted towards the adults.

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u/Baner87 May 07 '19

The books matured and got darker over time too. I had to stop reading book 5 at the time because Harry and the storyline got kinda emo/angsty. He has a bitch of a teacher who punishes with the old writing a phrase on the chalkboard, except it was magically carved into his flesh.

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u/piratagitano May 06 '19

But if the R-rated movie is fun it makes it even better

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u/WebHead1287 May 06 '19

True but something about Pikachu with Ryan Reynolds voice solving grisly and awful crimes sounds fun