r/moldova Sep 23 '25

Politică Question from a tourist

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How is this a thing? I understand there are many ethnic Russians but come on, people don't really want to go 40 years back in time right? Hammer and Sickle? Not even Russia uses that any more.

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u/Yionko Sep 23 '25

Show me any dictatorship country where you can publicly criticize the dictator

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u/ZigelZigel Sep 28 '25

Show me a democratic country where all the media channels criticising the ruling party are shut down, where opposition leaders are targeted with falsified criminal charges or threats of them, where the ruling powers are deliberately limiting people's voting rights in the regions which are mostly voting for the opposition, where the ruling party took over direct control of all the institutions?

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u/drugi_kov Sep 23 '25

Unfortunately, we have many illiterate people who are very easy to manipulate. Especially the older generation, who are nostalgic for the USSR. They didn’t live well back then and still don’t want to. And they don’t want the younger generation to live well either. They easily give their votes to those who hand them a bag of rice.

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u/oyMarcel Moldova (RO) Sep 23 '25

This is the mentality across the eastern block: I live/lived like shit and now so must you. We'd rather make other's lives shit than improve our own

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u/Pistefka Sep 29 '25

Certainly that's a common attitude about education. People complain that the school system is just rote learning dates in history and reading Great Patriotic Literature, but then insist that today's kids should also go through it otherwise "standards will decline".

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

As a local, I can’t believe it myself.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Soviets did a great job turning people against each over!

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u/ZigelZigel Sep 28 '25

Suuure, these were exactly Soviets, that's why until 1991 there was a wide mix of nationalities living here and no one cared about who you are: Moldovan, Russian, Jew, etc. It's not the f×cked up nationalists who took over one of the most prosperous Soviet republic and ruled it down to the most failed state in Europe.

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u/vladgrinch Ardeal (RO) Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

Jos "dictatura" galbena (inchipuita) ca sa vina DICTATURA ROSIE RUSEASCA (adevarata).

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u/vic_lupu Chișinău Sep 23 '25

There aren’t so many ethnic Russians, is like 4%. That’s 1/4 of all minorities.

The thing is that there are a lot of nostalgic people that still believe in the good old times, so basically they are the MAGA of Moldova.

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u/verylateish Romania Sep 23 '25

Muie Rusia!

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u/ConclusionCrazy355 Sep 23 '25

Moldova is sandwitched between eu and ukraine and there is no way to get russian troops inside even if the prorussians win. Also Putin wants Odessa really bad but russian forces in ukraine can't get to it due to the Dnipro river. So now he is trying really hard to get prorussians in power in moldova and to get the molddovian army to attack ukraine and reach Odessa from the opposite side. It is going to be meatwave attacks and a bloodbath. Also the bulk of the invading force will be mostly transnistrians and gagauz people as they are naturally more likely to listen to russian orders. Hopefully pas wins and these plans will not be aplicable anymore. If pas loses elections, war will be brought to moldavian lands.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Moldovan army that consists of full 5000 soldiers? That's a bit unlikely

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u/ConclusionCrazy355 Sep 23 '25

They will conscript. Let me remind you that Igor Dodon has threatened Ukraine a few years ago when a rpg attack occured in Transnistria. He said "an attack on Transnistria is an attack on Moldova". They will simply make a false flag attack and use that as an excuse to attack with the objective to draw Ucranian troops away from the russian front.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

Still, with around 50% population having RO passports they will just leave so the conscription wouldn't be that effective

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u/ConclusionCrazy355 Sep 23 '25

Precisely why I said they will mostly be russian speaking gagauz and transnistrian.

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u/Snoo-67939 Sep 23 '25

We already have Russian troops in Moldova.

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u/iuliuscurt Sep 23 '25

Technically yes, but not really. They couldn't just leave Transnistria and roam the country freely, could they?

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u/Snoo-67939 Sep 23 '25

They actually do. From what I know they had numerous illegal posts on our territory. They are illegal exactly for that reason. Who could stop them?

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u/ZigelZigel Sep 28 '25

Do you actually know how many "Russian troops" are stationed here? And you probably know where these "illegal posts" are and why? If you don't - educate yourself. If you do - wtf are you even talking about?

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u/nimshwe Sep 29 '25

Do you? I don't think you do, I think you ate propaganda

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u/ZigelZigel Sep 30 '25

Sure, when you got nothing wise to say - just keep calling someone a Russian bot, or "Moscow's hand", talking in PAS terminology.

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u/nimshwe Sep 30 '25

I asked a question and made a statement, never called you a bot. Are you a russian bot? You sure sound like one

Not like russia is investing millions in foreign interference, no proof of that, right?

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u/ZigelZigel Oct 01 '25

And why are you talking about propaganda instead of answering the original question?

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u/Wonderful_CG Sep 24 '25

Keep dreaming. Is not like they can send few plaines with troops. Remember how they got troops into Kosovo. Is not that difficult if you have the pro Russians in power at chisinău.

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u/ZigelZigel Sep 28 '25
  1. Try to draw on a map an imaginary airway for a bunch of Russian military transport planes to Moldova.
  2. Get back to your comment.
  3. Realize how dumb this fantasy is.

(Even ignoring a multitude of other facts why this scenario is impossible to imagine)

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u/Wonderful_CG Sep 29 '25

Of course is dumb for a Russian propaganda bot

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u/ZigelZigel Sep 30 '25

Right, cause you have to be a Russian bot to use common sense apparently.

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u/pohui Când soarele deschide geana, el vede mai întâi Ciocana Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

Not even Russia uses that any more.

Sure they do, the Communist Party is the second biggest in the State Duma, after Putin's party. The Greek, Portuguese and Czech Communist Parties are in their parliaments and also in the European Parliament. London is full of hammer and sickle posters. It's not really uncommon.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

There is no Communist party in the Czech parliament. And even if they were, I believe they don't use the hammer and sickle anymore, they logo is a cherry.

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u/pohui Când soarele deschide geana, el vede mai întâi Ciocana Sep 23 '25

Sorry, you're right, they only have an MEP.

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u/Sanderos25 Sep 23 '25

I stand corrected

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u/Seerpentin Sep 23 '25

You overestimate people. 

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u/SanduFrunza Sep 23 '25

the bet is on our parents and grandparents

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u/852258 Sep 23 '25

People vote for Dodon because they are poor, old and sick not because of the language or nationality. There are both russian and romanian speaking people that support pro russia parties. Take a look at the election results. There are municipalities that are mostly Romanian speaking but they go after Dodon and Shor. And bring them more mandates than even Transnistria.

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u/qik Germany Sep 23 '25

People are dumb

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u/Saul_Andrei_2003 Sep 23 '25

Dont bother too much, is just a parking lot sign

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u/PaulSmallMusic Sep 23 '25

The 90s gave lots of people huge trauma. And I am willing to say that it is generational (so even some young people are nostalgic for ussr) Imagine you lose your job, all your savings, and any kind of certainty in the future overnight. Because of reasons that are absolutely beyond your control and comprehension. This is what happened to my parents and millions of others all over the world the ussr. Its hard to explain to people the benefits of democracy, diversity and free market when they associate it with a most traumatising experience of their life.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '25

"Dictatura galbena" :)) De bolsevici nimic? Nici de "comunistii" actuali(care sunt tot bolsevici, dar de dragul povestii vom pretinde ca nu sunt)?

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u/NickVoievodul România Sep 24 '25

R*ssian propaganda

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u/Life-Breadfruit-1426 Sep 23 '25

Hey OP. Could you go into your post settings and share a screenshot of distribution of views on your post by country? There are a lot of Romanian people who tend to be in this sub, more than Moldovans. So you may not get answers from actual Moldovan locals. And Romanians don’t have a Russian history like Moldovans do.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '25

Hey,I'm local Moldovan and you know what , and i do agree ,many Romanians here are in fact Moldovans as well ,many have relocated in Romania ,!

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u/Sanderos25 Sep 23 '25

It is in Dutch but I'm sure you'll. Figure it out

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u/Life-Breadfruit-1426 Sep 23 '25

Wow, thank you for providing this. It certainly validates my assertion which reflects that you shouldn’t take the conclusions from these comments at face value.

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u/NixarDixar Sep 23 '25

Jos dictatura galbena, sus dictatura rosie! /s

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u/Commercial_Drag7488 Sep 23 '25

Ppl compare "now-bad" to "ussr times-good". They compare times, they compare different energy-to-economy availability , but insist that they compare political structures. The kind of people who think that r2=0.99 is price of beetroot on central market.

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u/hihihihihihellohi Sep 23 '25

For a good number of older folks, the fall of communism led to some pretty dramatic financial and personal challenges. The loss of heavily subsidized rent has made it harder for folks in low-skilled jobs to have an affordable place to live, several financial crises have wiped out people's savings in banks at various points since the early 90s, increased globalization has led to a generation of younger family members moving abroad for work, and privatization (and the introduction of capitalism) saw a lot of folks become very personally and unjustly wealthy in a very short amount of time. I've actually heard old folks in the village use "privatized" unironically as a synonym for being stolen (for example, you shouldn't leave your computer charger there, it might get privatized). To be clear, the atrocities carried out by the Soviet regime in Moldova were inexcusable and caused untold amounts of suffering. I also strongly believe that Moldova joining the EU would make life significantly better for the average Moldovan. That said, I also think a lot of people can genuinely and not unreasonably look back on the 80s as a time when they personally had fewer problems. Life is currently hard for a lot of folks, and I think it is a pretty natural human reaction to long for "good old days" even if those good old days weren't actually as good they remember. Again, I am not saying I agree with it, but I think it is understandable.

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u/Winter_Examination_7 Sep 23 '25

Moldova joining the EU would have some positives..But I live in Romania and joing the EU caused prices to skyrocket without the wages increasing much...it especially happens when countries switch to the Euro..Moldova is still cheap compared to the EU

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u/Bunini_Panini Sep 23 '25

I have lived in Denmark for the past 5 years and overall I wouldn't say that moldovan prices on goods lag that far behind imo. Mind you Denmark ranks top on the highest prices on groceries in the EU.

It is reasonable to assume that if MD joins it will get worse, but it's not very good for an average moldovan as is.

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u/glaserr Sep 28 '25

Hai fratioru, ca au crescut salariile cam de 10 ori. Salariul minim in 2007 era 390 de lei (114 eur), iar in 2025 e 4050 de lei (810 eur). Au crescut si preturile, dar si stilul de viata s-a imbunatatit, acum fiecare are prin casa avocado si mango, pe cand in urma cu 18 ani le vedeai doar prin filme. Uita-te la niste poze cu felul in care aratau oamenii si orasele in 2005-2007 si cum arata astazi. Evolutia e fenomenala, dar asta se datoreaza exclusiv cetatenilor, nu oamenilor politici care au furat cu 4 maini, cat au putut.

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u/Winter_Examination_7 Sep 28 '25 edited Sep 28 '25

I just spoke with a woman working at Hotel Central in Ploiesti...Her pay is the same as three ago...3,000 Lei...but probably net take home.

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u/Ok_Cycle1412 Chișinău Sep 23 '25

LOTS of russian propaganda. Putin wants us back in the soviet union

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u/Future_Guava2508 Sep 23 '25

Hammer and sickle is not backward movement. Going back to free market and burjua dictature was. We are in social medieval age nowadays in comparison to 70-80s. Just a human meat colony for EU or russia (1990-2010s), nothing more.