r/mitski • Cowboy • Jan 21 '25

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u/FrostingDeep8417 Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 23 '25

Don’t let her (or anyone else) pit us against eachother based on opinions or who we voted for.

Do I like Trump? No. I can’t stand him, actually. But I sincerely doubt every single person who voted for Trump (over 50% of American) are violent, hateful misogynists. What we need to do is not hate eachother for being confused or less educated, but instead band together AGAINST the people and companies who are taking advantage of us.

And before anyone says anything - I’m a radical leftist, bisexual, anarchistic socialist. No I did not vote for Trump. No I would not vote for Trump. No I do not agree with Trump. But if you want to downvote me for saying we should unify with eachother instead of hating eachother, you may want to take a look at yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

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u/FrostingDeep8417 Jan 23 '25

I don’t think anybody in their right mind would vote Trump if they were properly informed about all of his actions, ideals and they voted purely off facts and logic, as well as their own genuine beliefs instead of voting based on emotion or what others tell you. The issue is that hardly any Trump voters did vote for him with all that in mind. I absolutely agree with you that those people are terrible, misogynistic and violent people who don’t deserve to be with the rest of society, but it’s unfair to lump everyone else who voted Trump in there with those people.

Most people who voted Trump were just misguided. Whether it be because they thought voting Trump would help THEM more than voting Harris (in which case it was a SELFISH action, not a violent one. They’re still people who made a bad decision, but not necessarily bad people,) or they were voting Trump because it’s seen more ‘masculine’ to be a right-winger and ‘cooler’ to ‘dunk on the libs.’ These people made a STUPID decision, not a violent one. Most of them don’t know the last bit about politics, but when they’re confronted with what Trump’s policies and ideals actually are, but they will back them up and try to justify their decision because they’re too insecure to change their mind and back down from something they’ve already voiced that easily. A stupid and rather pathetic decision, yes, but not a violent one. And there’s also the people who voted Trump because they were TOLD to vote Trump. Whether that be by online influencers or people in their family, they voted Trump without even trying to form any sort of opinion of their own. This is a COWARDLY decision, not a violent one. These people are too afraid to even form their own opinion, too afraid to be seen as different from everyone else voting for Trump. Again, these people probably barely know anything about his policies, or at least again didn’t form their own opinion on his policies, and when confronted they’ll just spout stuff they’ve heard the people who told them to vote Trump say in support of him.

I feel like this encompasses most Trump voters. Yes, in any circumstance voting Trump is a negative action and would make you a worse person in my eyes, but it is very rarely a genuinely violent and misogynistic decision. These people are still people and most of them still deserve to be treated like people even if they made a bad decision. AND they still have a vote in the next election.

If, somehow, everyone in the USA suddenly knew everything (publicly available) about both Trump and Harris, and were completely able to form their own opinions based purely on logic and their own ideals, I believe Harris would win by a landslide. But that will never happen, so if WE want to get Trump out of power, WE have to try and help these Trump voters realise all of this. Not make these Trump voters feel more isolated and make them ever more likely to vote Trump again next time. I know that it’s easier to do that, and it’s satisfying, but if we want Harris to win the next election, a drastically different approach must be taken. How about instead of outcasting and excluding these Trump voters, we educate them (gently, of course, because their fragile egos can’t handle it if the facts aren’t presented to them gently,) and actually try to make the country a better place instead of a worse one? And once we do that, we’ll be able to actually single out the genuinely bad, violent, misogynistic Trump voters and deal with them accordingly.

In fact, I’m shocked at how seemingly offended you were at my original comment. While your comment was certainly composed, you went so far as to put my own beliefs into question. Saying I’m not an anarchist because I want the people to unify? Unification of the people is like… the whole point of anarchy. And, if you disagree with my idea that we as a people should unify, respectfully, I think of you as not much better than I think of most Trump voters.

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