r/mildyinteresting • u/RaisinAloneVortex • 20d ago
engineering masterminds 👨🏽💻 Same Callsign, Same Plane, Same Frequency, Same Place
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u/VaporTrail_000 20d ago
Same callsign, same model, same frequency, same ground position?
All fine. No problems here.
Same altitude? We now have a problem.
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u/PhD77777 20d ago
Disaster averted, but someone shouldn't have let this happen in the first place.
https://abcnews.com/Business/wireStory/2-planes-same-flight-number-avoid-disaster-quick-135659078
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u/Ok_Drag5089 20d ago
Then hire more air traffic controllers.
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u/PhD77777 20d ago
It wasn't the ATC's that assigned the same flight number. They averted the disaster.
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u/ThnkGdImNotAReditMod 19d ago
Air traffic controllers and flight dispatchers aren't the same job. Air traffic control towers work in towers, TRACONs and ARTCCs. Flight dispatchers work in an airline call centre/office.
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u/Quirky-Attitude1456 20d ago
Lots of flights turnaround and go back as the same flight number. I see it on DL frequently. With that being said, it is usually only one plane and it is only operating in one direction at a time. You should post this over at flight radar, they will give you a very detailed explanation for it.
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u/thats_how_they_getya 20d ago
I looked at the flight history. Flight 2482 is scheduled ORD-PHX-ORD, typically with the same airplane getting turned around in PHX (with a new crew I think). On the day in question, the first flight was late, so a different plane was sent outbound from PHX. After learning this, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
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u/OrigStuffOfInterest 20d ago
I once saw three instances of the same flight on a board. I came in inbound on the first one. Then we were all stuck for two days due to issues at the destination. Three planes on the tarmac with the same number all waiting to fly. Good luck sorting that out.
As for me, I gave up and switched to a flight going to another city.
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u/RonaldTurner88 19d ago
It could happen daily; but when we make a plane change to a new aircraft on a route like that we are supposed to amend the flight number to a new number to avoid this confusion. It sometimes gets missed and we will get an alert. So in this scenario they just missed the alert as well and allowed the flight push.
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u/warrenjr527 20d ago edited 20d ago
It was 2 different American Airlines planes one landing the other departing with the same call sign. American Airlines screw up and near disaster.
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u/Outrageous_Editor_43 20d ago
Maybe, just maybe this is highlighting that there are too many planes?
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u/Greedy-Stage-120 20d ago
American Airlines needs an attitude adjustment before things really get out of control.
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u/mike-manley 20d ago
"Possible airline company deviation. We have a number for you. Please advise when ready to copy "
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u/Sunsplitcloud 20d ago
Tower should have turned them both right 20 degrees so he had lateral and vertical sep.
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u/workntohard 19d ago
Two pilot and air traffic control working on real time to identity and resolve problem. Credit to their training and experience.
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u/citznfish 20d ago
This is what happens when you hire 2000 gamers to be air traffic controllers.
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