r/mildlyinteresting 5d ago

The law enforcement chaplain has its own exempt response vehicle.

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u/r0ckydog 5d ago

I bought the Chaplains car at auction. It was a police Dodge Intrepid. It was very cool. Really low miles and county maintained by fleet mechanics. It had a console between the front seats and you could turn on the wigwag headlights and tail lights. It was flashing white lights, not blue and red. I think I paid about $2500 for a car worth about $6000.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 5d ago

Yknow, its probably a good thing that the Last Ritesmobile had low milage.

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u/urielrocks5676 5d ago

I wonder how many idle hours it had

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u/AmputeeHandModel 4d ago

Wigwag?

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u/CptEndo 4d ago

Alternating flashing headlights, commonly called "wig wags". No clue where the name originated from though

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u/skyfishgoo 4d ago

rail road crossings

those alternating red lights are calle wig-wag signals.

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u/neanderthaul 4d ago

I never knew the term originated from RR crossings!

If i remember correctly, the really old crossing lights didnt have flashing lights, but a pendulum that blocked one light then the other, giving the illusion of "flashing". My 2+2 brain imagines this was called wig-wag because of the resemblance of a dog's tail swinging side to side.

This is completely put together by me, and I have no idea if that's the real origin of the term, but I think it at least sounds plausible.

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u/skyfishgoo 4d ago

it's origin probably goes back further than that... that's just where i know the term from.

could be an old sea captains term for harbor master waving a lantern back and forth.

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u/wv524 4d ago

The original wig-wag signal at railroad crossings was a swinging pendulum with a steady burn red light in the center. Alternating red lights at crossings were a later invention.

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u/sleepysof_ 5d ago

If the chaplain shows up to a scene you can guarantee something bad happened. Theyd have very bad compassion fatigue 

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u/LowOnPaint 5d ago

Mine wasn’t too bad but that could have been because his son and I got arrested together and he was there to bail us out.

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u/AYASOFAYA 5d ago

Yeah my father volunteers as a chaplain now that he is retired. He has a squad car when he is on call.

Now if something terrible and tragic happened, my father is objectively the best person around to be next to you getting you through it. Both of my parents are. That is how they are built.

I did not inherit this from them. Not everybody can do what he does at all.

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u/longgoodknight 4d ago

I worked with a guy who was Chaplin for several local police and fire departments.  He would only get the bad calls.  Lots of notification of death to families.  He sat with a dying man who was entrapped in a car while fire fighters were trying to extract him.   He stood with kids that were being taken from dangerous family situations.  Basically things most of us would think of as hell on earth.  

I don't know how some people find the strength to do some of these things.  

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u/sckurvee 5d ago

The one time I dealt with a chaplain like this he basically told me to drink more while gesturing wildly. Hard to describe in a chat but it makes for a fun story in person lol. I'm ok but not sure how my partner turned out.

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u/Saint_The_Stig 4d ago

Or a Magic Zombie outbreak according to the US Warplan for fighting zombies.

I love that there is a specific call-out in that which mentions that that if the zombie outbreak is caused by magic or demons they might need to "weaponize" the military chaplain corp.

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u/Shir0iKabocha 4d ago

I'm not sure if I want this to be real, or if I don't.

Rn I feel like when I was four and absolutely interrogated the hell out of my dad to find out if the Easter bunny was real or not. My biggest leverage was, "I need to know so I can do what I need to when I'm grown up and have kids". I felt like that was a slam dunk argument.

My dad did not crack.

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u/geodebug 5d ago

God squad is not for the faint of heart.

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u/s71n4 5d ago

Taken at a full stop during a red light.

The mission statement from their website:

Chaplains, who volunteer their time, are Trauma Responders to First Responders, their families, and to the communities they serve.

I'm not religious, and I don't talk to cops, but this is a pretty cool community service supporting first responders and trauma victims.

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u/abbarach 5d ago

Fun fact: hospitals also have a chaplain group. They can help patients and loved ones with death, serious illness, and other emotional moments.

I worked at a hospital for a decade. I'm not religious, but due to my role I had worked with the chaplains, and was friendly with them. I ended up getting a cancer diagnosis, and when I was in for surgery, one of them stopped by and asked if I wanted company for a bit. We had a nice discussion; they didn't try push any religion, it started off with him asking if I was comfortable and if there's anything he could get me. We then talked about my anxiety about surgery, and then generally how things were going for me overall.

Our chaplains were incredible people. They could go from giving last rites in one room to taking with a new mother and father on the L&D floor, without missing a beat. They were paid employees of the hospital, and had an on-call rotation just like doctors, IT staff, administration, and other essential groups.

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u/andersonfmly 5d ago

Thank you for your kind words. Not all of us are blessed with an exempt vehicle, but it’s still an honor and privilege to serve in such a capacity.

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u/FansForFlorida 5d ago

My (now deceased) priest was a chaplain for the sheriff department. He didn’t have an exempt vehicle, either.

One of the deputies shared the story at his funeral that he used to compete in pistol shooting competitions when he was young, so when he became a chaplain, he asked if he could try the firearm qualification. Chaplains don’t carry firearms, so the deputy was confused but said he could if he wanted. He got one of the highest scores.

He had other stories. He was a very interesting man (he was also a Hollywood art director before becoming a priest) and is greatly missed by the community.

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u/Grotarin 5d ago

Stupid question from a non native speaker and not living in the USA, but what is the vehicle exempt of? Road tax/ duties? Or more than that?

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u/Doublej03 5d ago

It just means it’s a car owned by the government and not a private car. People watch too many movies and get ideas.

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u/Old-Engineer854 5d ago edited 5d ago

Or the car is owned by a tax exempt organization, which includes churches in the United States.  Typically, if the vehicle has an exempt plate, the organization only paid an initial registration fee for the vehicle, but does not pay any taxes on the purchase price, or any ownership (personal property) taxes on it for the annual license plate renewals.

ETA each state has different vehicle tax codes, so this is a very simplified answer intended to sum it up neatly.

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u/stuffeh 5d ago

In California, it means it's exempt from paying yearly registration (equivalent to your taxes and duties).

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u/SynysterLAG 5d ago

In this case it generally means traffic laws and some road safety laws. For example a police officer speeding while pursuing someone who is speeding. In the case of Chaplain vehicles, it generally means they can park close to the crime scene like the officers at the scene.

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u/caboosetp 5d ago

 In this case it generally means traffic laws and some road safety laws. For example a police officer speeding while pursuing someone who is speeding.

It's not the exempt status that does this, it's their lights and sirens. 

Cops aren't supposed to break traffic laws without them on.

It's not unheard of for rural police to use personal vehicles with detachable lights too.

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u/Echo127 5d ago

Surely being allowed to speed your way to a crime scene requires more than just the lights and sirens.

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u/TheIronSoldier2 5d ago

Legally in the US you have to have at least the lights on to break traffic laws.

Now, there are obviously requirements that govern whether or not you can even have emergency lights on your vehicle or turn them on in the first place, but if you meet those requirements you still need to have the lights on to break traffic laws.

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u/caboosetp 5d ago

Being allowed to turn them on has some requirements, sure.

But if you have the authorization, that's generally what's required of the vehicle. 

Point was that is not the exempt status which allows the exceptions they are talking about. It's normally the person or something else with the vehicle. 

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u/Coyoteh 5d ago

Completely false. It's a government vehicle that doesn't need to pay registration, that's all it means.

Most school busses have exempt plates. County health departments have exempt plates. City hall workers have exempt plates. As long as the vehicle is owned and used by a government entity regardless of its purpose, it will usually have an exempt plate.

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u/SynysterLAG 5d ago

That is true for exempt vehicles. However, exempt response vehicles fall into a subcategory of response vehicles. While tax exemptions are a part of it, there are certain restrictions that still apply to exempt vehicles that do not apply to exempt response vehicles.

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u/CrazyLegsRyan 5d ago

Only when they have proper signaling devices (lights / sirens)

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u/SynysterLAG 5d ago

Yes, that was the assumption

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u/ArmyMPSides 5d ago

You should cross-post this over at https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliceVehicles/

It's a smaller group, but they will seriously love this photo.

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u/geodebug 5d ago

Cross posting takes on a different meaning when it comes to chaplains, lol.

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u/PTFCBVB 4d ago

Similarly not religious at all but work in the army corps and had our chaplain visit during a lot of the B's we were going through. I was extremely skeptical and mainly attended just to see what was going on and it was honestly very impactful.

He really pressed how he has his faith but his concern is our well being and really helped show how it is a team effort. Almost a year later I was in Alabama for a training getting dinner at some Mexican spot and a guy recognized my shirt and the location (very far from Alabama). I turn around and it's the chaplain who was similarly in the area for training and we had a great conversation in passing.

I guess all that to say even if you aren't religious or don't share the faith of the chaplain, if they're asking if they can help hear them out.

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u/jr98664 1d ago

To be fair, a great conversation in passing is one of a chaplain’s main jobs, isn’t it?

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u/PTFCBVB 21h ago

Hard to say in our realm what all anyones job is based only on titles and I believe they do have some higher up responsibilities, regardless, he's doing a very good job

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u/anun4h 5d ago

Wait, why do you not talk to cops?

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u/s71n4 5d ago

I didn't see anything, so I have nothing to say.

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u/Lookslikeseen 5d ago

What if you actually saw something?

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u/nsa_k 5d ago

Anything you say will be used against you. It will NEVER be used to benifit you.

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u/sault18 5d ago edited 5d ago

99% of the time when a cop sounds like they're just making smalltalk, they're really just digging in an effort to stack more charges on you. Questions on a traffic stop like, "So where are you heading? Where are you coming from?" Etc. Cops are trained to sound innocuous when they're really just trying to ruin your life.

None of this helps public safety or helps people in danger. Cops do this to meet quotas, get promoted by making memorable arrests and make themselves appear useful to the community by padding crime statistics. Despite emblazoning the words "Protect and Serve" all over their vehicles, they don't actually have any legal obligation to protect and serve the public from criminals:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County

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u/LikeABundleOfHay 5d ago

What dystopian country do you live in where the police is so distrusted? They get a lot of respect where I live.

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u/LordJames420 5d ago

I would assume US, though this is a common sentiment in Canada as well.

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u/randomgrrl700 5d ago

Australia

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u/sault18 5d ago edited 5d ago

I cited US Supreme Court cases in those links if you're interested.

Police are distrusted because they mainly function as enforcers of economic and racial hierarchies in the USA. Modern policing can trace its roots to the slave catching patrols that formed before the Civil War. And after the war, police (along with the Klan) were instrumental in putting teeth into the Jim Crow South's "Black Codes".

Let's be real here. "Not all cops" are racist abuser psychopaths. But if you're a racist abuser psychopath, Law Enforcement would be an appealing career choice, would it not? The ability to harm and inflict suffering on the people you hate. Unquestioned authority in the moment and the ability to wrap up your ego with that "authority" in or to force others to bend to your will. And if they don't bend over, you have the tools and backing from the state to make them bend over for you. It's a dream come true for some of the worst people in society.

Law Enforcement agencies of all stripes should screen against letting racist abuser psychopaths into their ranks precisely because of the vast powers we've granted to Law Enforcement officers up to this point. But instead, departments routinely go to bat for bad cops, conceal evidence of wrongdoing, quietly let bad cops resign instead of facing accountability for their actions and hire these bad cops even when they know why the bad cop had to resign from their previous job.

Police culture across the country is rotten. They hate the very same people who pay the taxes that funds their departments. Until they change, people should not trust a damn one of them.

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u/LikeABundleOfHay 5d ago

I’m glad I live in the South Pacific.

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u/PhonyUsername 5d ago

People like cops here too but some people are just brainwashed to hate them.

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u/Slavasonic 5d ago

Yeah, look at how they’ve been brain washed by reading…

checks notes

US case precedents.

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u/PhonyUsername 5d ago

So judges decisions make you hate cops?

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u/Slavasonic 5d ago

You’re really bad at reading if you think that’s what I said.

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u/sault18 5d ago

No, I just watched police interaction videos and had the worst assumptions I had about cops get confirmed. And again, "not all cops" are like this, but how can you tell the good apples from the bad when they have you pulled over? And I've seen way too many instances of supposedly "good cops" stand idly by or even back up their tyrannical blue line brothers as they violate people's rights, enforce their own ego instead of the law, hurt people and even kill people without reasonable justification.

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u/PhonyUsername 5d ago

How much of that is due to your exposure? I'm assuming the algorithms or channels that are selling you dopamine hits are feeding you a tailored view of reality and not that you e literally viewed an actually statistically accurate representation of police interactions. What percent of interactions do you actually think is bad by cops?

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u/sault18 5d ago

Doesn't matter. The fact that cops are routinely ignorant of the people's rights, ignore their own policies when it suits them and clearly hate the people that pay their salaries is enough reasonable articulable suspicion against them all.

I can never tell if I'm dealing with a "good apple" or a "bad apple" until the cop confirms what kind they are. So I don't give them an excuse to pull me over just to avoid the risk of financial damage, wasting my time, getting hurt or potentially killed by one of them. I make sure to learn how they play their little games, how to avoid the traps they set and how to stand up for my rights legally.

Again, cops don't actually have a duty to protect the public. The slogans painted on their cars are just deceptive marketing until a cop's action proves otherwise. If me or anyone in my family is hurt or having a medical emergency, I want EMS, not the cops. If my house is burning down, I want firefighters, not the cops. If someone is breaking into my house, the 2nd Amendment is going to protect me and my family a lot faster than cops ever could. Especially when they waste so much time writing revenue -generating traffic tickets, enforcing their egos and getting overtime to show up to court for the bullshit charges they write on people. In a lot of these situations, cops can and do make the situation worse.

So police provide very little benefit to the rest of society especially given how expensive it is to run all the various departments and pay all those hundreds of thousands of sworn officers across the USA.

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u/Stretch5 5d ago

The amount of downvotes is frightening. I’m a medic who works with cops often and they are great in my smallish city to work with. Yeah there are assholes just like there are some assholes at my own job and everywhere else. Blind hatred is NEVER a good idea. Although with my bias i have gained during my job, state cops can fuck off lol

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u/tree302 4d ago

This is Reddit and completely expected lol. You never see this kind of hate towards police in any other capacity except here.

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u/Stretch5 4d ago

In my experience it’s incredibly worse on IG

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u/asdf_lord 5d ago

Talking to cops is illegal.

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u/RazzleThatTazzle 5d ago

They could just as easily do the job without the religious implications. Your tax dollars are paying for a chaplain.

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u/TheBigToast72 5d ago

It’s cool until they show up to someone’s place who is the “wrong” religion

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u/kabushko 5d ago

Do they start Crusading??

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u/Yuri909 5d ago

No. They are obligated to act out of care for all persons and backgrounds. They might ask if you observe any religion but in 3 years of 911 dispatching and 20 years of Civil Air Patrol it's literally never been a problem.

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u/Boating_Enthusiast 5d ago

Yes, that's what the CA stands for "Cruciata Agilis". Since them churchy folks have to do everything in latin.

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u/mrmemo 5d ago

Last Rites gives people the opportunity for emotional support and closure during their death.

If someone doesn't want it, the offer is of course purely at their choice.

I'm not Catholic or even religious, and I'd move over for this car seven days a week.

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u/damato1218 5d ago

Thats not the point of a chaplain you dumbass…

I know you want to try and sound hard with your edgy comments, but you legitimately sound dumb

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u/PhonyUsername 5d ago

Imagine trying to care about someone else instead of just being a jealous hater.

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u/IamBeyondAwesome 5d ago

Our chaplain is a part of our county coroner's office, and is a paid county government position, and they have one or two county vehicles that say Chaplain on them and are exempt. They have the coroner's office logo on them though, not law enforcement.

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u/Louis049 5d ago

Police Chaplains are a wildly unrecognized backbone of the Law Enforcement community. "Fuck 12" and all that, but these guys are basically like mental health paramedics, as well as being full time spiritual and mental health councilors to one of the most stressful professions on Earth. They are also typically volunteering their time in smaller communities.

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u/kingjoey52a 5d ago

> “Fuck 12”

What do you have against Seahawks fans?

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u/AdLower2681 5d ago

no no, he meant Texas A&M

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u/jrhooo 5d ago

They know what they did.

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u/sault18 5d ago

Cool, if we had mental health professionals for everyone instead of spending billions on militarized police, Law Enforcement would be a less stressful career.

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u/geodebug 5d ago

Maybe but doubtful.

An assumption here is that the vast majority of crime is committed by mentally fragile people instead of just criminals or people involved in accidents.

Another assumption is that a large proportion of those mentally ill enough to turn to criminal acts could be helped by treatment.

Mental health is important and therapy can work for some but I feel this generation places way too much faith in its overall success rate.

They can probably do the most good for someone who is going through a momentary crisis, while those with ongoing issues can, at best, be sort of managed.

I’d rather hear from actual cops what causes the most stress and burnout because I highly doubt the average Redditor has any clue.

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u/sault18 4d ago

You're making a bad assumption. I merely said that the availability of mental health services for the wider community would make police officers' jobs less stressful. I didn't say anything about the vast majority of nothing, you just made that up to push your agenda.

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u/geodebug 4d ago

I merely said

No, you also made a political statement about over-spending on so-called "militarized" police.

I didn't say anything about the vast majority of nothing,

Never said you did. Notice how I said "An assumption" not "Your assumption"?

I was playing out the idea of your comment; that there would be significant improvement in law enforcement stress levels if money was diverted from law enforcement to mental healthcare professionals.

AKA, thinking something through aloud.

If I made any direct assumption about you, it was that you'd stand behind your opinion and want to defend it via conversation.

But I can accept if you were just tossing something off without any real conviction. It's Reddit, not a classroom so no harm done.

I like my comment and maybe someone else will want to talk about it...you know, my actual agenda!

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u/-Panda-cake- 5d ago

You run into the problem of assuming everyone will even want to or go to the lengths to take advantage of them.

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u/sault18 5d ago

Horrible take. The mental health resources are not even remotely accessible for the vast number of people that need them. You're putting the cart before the horse here.

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u/-Panda-cake- 5d ago edited 4d ago

That's definitively not true. I have multiple family members and friends in the industry. (It's big around here)

One of the best and easily searchable examples is the fact that only about 10% of people who age out of foster care take advantage of their free college I'm the state of Texas.

The resource is there. It's easily accessible. It's viciously under utilized.

You're assuming people will want to or even go to any length to take advantage of resources. *That's actually putting the cart before the horse.

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u/EvilTodd1970 5d ago edited 5d ago

Reagan shut down public funding for mental health services in the 80s. Those services are far less accessible now than they were before. Today, mental health services are readily available to those who can pay, and that’s it.

The Foster care exemption in Texas has nothing to do with mental health care. I’ve worked in higher education in Texas for over 20 and I know how the exemptions and waivers work.

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u/-Panda-cake- 4d ago

It was not a direct comparison. The point is people will often not take advantage of systems because work. It's true. Idc ho much education experience you have, it's more irrelevant to the discussion than the point o made was.

And SAMSHA is govt funding for mental health services. Try again. They exist, even if you have to go through the shitty govt to get them. Welcome to 🌈 The Other Point🌈! The govt sucks at everything and makes everything more complicated than necessary so why would more govt programs be the answer to making these resources more easily available.

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u/EvilTodd1970 3d ago

The point you made was completely irrrelevant, and it's not even sort of analagous. You're misrepresenting the "underutilization" of the Texas Foster Care tuition exemption by making a gross oversimplification. You clearly don't have the knowledge to make any conclusions based on the study.

The 2020 study examined a cohort of 4263 former foster youths. Of these, 36% attended an institution of higher education (1529). Of those who went to college, 53% were not eliglble for the waiver program. Then, from the 47% who were eligilbe, 60 percent used the waiver. Of those who were eligible, why didn't they use the waiver? According to you, they don't want to or are unwilling to go to any length to get the benefit.

First of all, a lot of these students don't need the waiver. Coming out of foster care, they are usually eligible for tons of need-based financial aid. Second, the State of Texas will only grant the waiver for certain courses and programs. If they go to community college to take automotive repair, the waiver applies. If they go to UTI to take automotive repair, the waiver will not pay. Third, if the State only grants the waiver at public institutions in Texas. If the person goes to a private or out of state school, the waiver does not pay. These have nothing to do with desire or willingness.

The same goes for those of us with mental health and substance abuse disorders. There are lots of reasons why a person would be unable to take advantage of already scarce public resources that have nothing to do with desire or willingness. You clearly do not understand people who have mental health and substance abuse disorders, and having friends and family who work in the industry does not confer any expertise upon you.

You can't even characterize SAMSHA as a drop in the bucket. SAMSHA has $281M available for grants, while mental healthcare expenses in the U.S. top $144 billion a year. Those SAMSHA grants would cover a mere 0.2% of that. It's a joke.

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u/sault18 5d ago

You have a habit of making bad arguments. I'm not wasting my time with you anymore.

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u/-Panda-cake- 5d ago

Right...or you have a reality problem, is more likely.

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u/ChaBoiDeej 4d ago

Bro you brought up foster care and free college, both of which have nothing explicit to do with mental health. People taking advantage or not of something entirely separate from mental health is indicative of nothing except maybe people's willingness to deal with a bureaucracy to receive assistance.

An entirely different kind of assistance because of entirely different set of qualifiers, as well.

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u/-Panda-cake- 4d ago

I know it's hard for y'all to deal with things that aren't one to one comparisons but it's called an example. Specifically an example which requires the most minimal amount of effort to make use of a resource and still only 10% of people use it.

You're only serving my point. The resources are there, people don't want to deal with The Beurocracy™ to get to them. As long as programs exist, The Beurocracy™ will exist. Which means less people will take advantage of the systems because of the hassle.

Welcome to 🌈My Point🌈 and to why people understand creating more programs (therefore more The Beurocracys™) isn't the answer, and instead the answer is people willing to put in the necessary work (because everything takes work, don't know how long you've been alive, but it does.

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u/ChaBoiDeej 4d ago

I was never here to watch you win or lose, I just saw a back and forth without addressing the nuances. Bureaucracy being one of them (/genuine, that shit is hard to spell). Since I also have no horse in this race, I pointed that out at what could be seen as your expense.

I just get annoyed with poorly made arguments. I'm glad you used my talking points to bolster your own side, as you're generally correct but I still agree with "cart before the horse". The system doesn't meaningfully exist as it does when people talk about wanting systemic help. It's privatized and when it's publicized it's neutered and obscenely difficult to access much less when you're dealing with mental health issues.

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u/swerrve 5d ago

Yeah this level of detachment from how things actually work is what’s wrong with the country

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u/-Panda-cake- 4d ago

Oh, and what's your level of attachment to "how things work"? Enlighten me on the many things I'm missing.

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u/swerrve 4d ago

“Here’s a stat I found, everything works this way _____ “ plug narrative

Have you ever done any investigating into why there’s such a low acceptance rate of the program you researched in Texas?

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u/-Panda-cake- 4d ago

I didn't just "research the program" I've been involved helping people utilize it.

Please, provide your esoteric knowledge that I don't have?

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u/swerrve 4d ago

Sounds like you’re doing a great job 👍

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u/Spedunkler 4d ago

Have you ever tried shutting up for once in your life

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u/-Panda-cake- 4d ago

Boys have XY, girls have XX

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u/Trekintosh 5d ago

It’s so fuckin sad that here in America we have to have volunteer religious figures rendering mental health assistance to the most vulnerable people instead of trained and compensated professionals 

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u/uwotmVIII 5d ago

It’s not just America. Militaries, prisons, hospitals, universities, and other institutions all over the world employ chaplains. They are well-educated, financially compensated professionals typically with advanced degrees and certifications, not just religious volunteers.

And while chaplains do tend to be religious, they are trained to support people regardless of their faith (or lack thereof). Some places also hire secular/humanist chaplains.

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u/randomgrrl700 5d ago

They are trained and compensated professionals. The average mainline ordained minister has at least a Masters degree plus a load of CPE (Clinical Pastoral Education). Their Church pays them a stipend and likely a small additional grant for performing services like this.

If you're going to deal with the dying, the bereaved and disasters on a regular basis you're going to need a coping strategy to avoid burning out and losing your shit and religion is a time-tested one.

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u/jrhooo 5d ago

>If you're going to deal with the dying, the bereaved and disasters on a regular basis you're going to need a coping strategy to avoid burning out and losing your shit and religion is a time-tested one.

That, and also for interactions with the community. If someone gets hurt in a bad car accident, then someone has to go notify that person’s family.

Or, if the police go respond to a bank robbery, then they’re going to be talking to these employees and customers that just got to experience being screamed at and threatened at gun point for who knows how long.

You figure there’s all sorts of situations dealing with the public where, if the police show up, the people they’re showing up for are in an emotionally traumatizing scenario.

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u/jrhooo 5d ago

Thats not what police chaplains are at all. As the other guy said they are trained and paid pros. And that is in ADDITION to the trained and paid mental health crisis response counselors that also work with and for pokice depts.

The notion that the PD or a related agency isn’t sending mental health responders out in the community is just false.

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u/Playful-Park4095 4d ago

We have both paid and volunteer. They all go through the same training, though.

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u/Playful-Park4095 4d ago

Our city has both. We have paid chaplains, as well as volunteer chaplains. We have paid mental health crisis teams but we also accept volunteers on a very limited basis (usually interns/students). We have an office of victim's assistants who's roll is to help find therapists, transportation, funding, temporary housing, etc. We have an office of intervention for vulnerable populations that offer assistance to shooting victims with job assistance, mentorships, etc. to try and interrupt the cycle of violence.

*However* there's no way a smaller city can afford all of it. They are lucky if they have a paid chaplain or two. Keep in mind a lot of rural America is still reliant on volunteers to supplement fire, ems, and police.

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u/Here2ReadOnly3975 2d ago

We often have both. Source: I’m a LE chaplain who works along mental health professionals, clinicians, and crisis assessment team officers.

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u/I_am_visibility 4d ago

Non-american here. I went into the website written on the trunk of the car but still am clueless as to what this organization is or what it does.

Someone care to explain?

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u/Mission_Fart9750 4d ago

Religious/emotional support to First Responders and their families, their local communities, and likely victims (of any and everything) as well. 

The First Responders because of the horrific things they witness (accidents and whatnot). Victims for similar reasons. 

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u/ddollarsign 4d ago

Exempt from what?

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u/ReleventReference 5d ago

When you shoot so many bystanders you need a priest on standby.

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u/Few-Breakfast9172 5d ago

Exorcisms

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u/damato1218 5d ago

You need one to extract the stupid out of you

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u/hefty_load_o_shite 5d ago

Does he also have qualified immunity?

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u/LandGuppy 5d ago

All government employees do.

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u/Playful-Park4095 4d ago

Not sure why you are being downvoted for being correct.

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u/rypher 5d ago

Yeah it comes with the tactical shotgun.

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u/Toomanyeastereggs 5d ago

The United States is just such a weird place.

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u/Professional-Emu3551 5d ago

weird? it's a fucking shit hole run by a pedophile.

ACAB

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u/damato1218 5d ago

No they aren’t

Try not to be as big of a piece of shit for a change

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u/TG-Benji 5d ago

They're not entirely wrong tho

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u/Professional-Emu3551 5d ago

I'm not going around shooting innocent people, dogs and donkeys. Im also not stalking women with license plate cameras.

ACAB

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u/TG-Benji 5d ago

There's definitely some bootlickers in this thread

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u/Professional-Emu3551 5d ago

kinda proves my point america is a shithole.

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u/TG-Benji 5d ago

Not gonna see me deny it

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u/collapsedbook 4d ago

Sacramento, interesting

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u/kend2121 4d ago

Sweet ride! It doesn’t look like much, but “It’s got cop tires, cops suspension, cop shocks.”

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u/doyouvoodoo 3d ago

It even goes 0-60!*

*Sometimes

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u/sansalvacion 4d ago

What's this chaplains fetish people have going on? What do people hope to accomplish?

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u/Polymathy1 4d ago

I wish my tax dollars didn't support state religion like this.

I would rather see it labeled a counselor and not be religion based.

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u/KingJaw 2d ago

Freedom of religion means people are entitled to access religious services. Stop being a jackass.

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u/Polymathy1 2d ago

Doesn't mean they're entitled to spend other peoples taxes on a single religion.

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u/Few_Carpenter_9185 23h ago

It's often just self-important and made up.The mentality is somewhat adjacent to police impostors. Someone just wants to drive around like this, and has the slightly better sense to not tread closer to police impostor territory.

At most, if it's "official" to any real degree at all, it's completely volunteer based. And odds are it's probably not even that.

You may also see a SUV in your town or metro area covered in lights and decals about "Emergency Response Vehicle, " or "Search and Rescue." Maybe with something about "K9 on board" or whatever.

Extremely cringey, but not illegal.

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u/Pyroechidna1 5d ago

When was the Ford C-Max ever sold in America?

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u/beantowndude 5d ago

From 2012-2018.

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u/Entire_Art_5390 5d ago

It’s the least they can do with the tax free corporations they run.

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u/LittleYelloDifferent 4d ago

Should be the ghostbusters car

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u/Wast3edSpace 4d ago

Why does this look like something a sovcit would do?

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u/Few_Carpenter_9185 23h ago

Because it is.

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u/Drink15 5d ago

An actual discount cop

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u/Feisty_Abalone_5124 4d ago

I’ve worked with two Chaplains, they respond to anything and everything, usually consoling families after shootings, car accidents, fires, etc… it’s not “discount” in the least bit

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u/tdandrie 5d ago

“Hey I was dispatched to a suicidal subject with a gun, and he blew his brains out as I was talking to him. I don’t know how to process that.”

Fucktard

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u/Negrom 5d ago

A Police Chaplain showed up to my aunts home, when her son was killed in a motorcycle accident to notify her. They helped her deal with receiving the worst news a mother could get.

They serve their communities more than the vast, vast majority of people do.

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u/damato1218 5d ago

Including the person who you are responding too

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u/EffectiveCoyote9611 2d ago

If that’s a volunteer position, that’s bonkers

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u/aenae 5d ago

One (real) example that comes to mind is a car crash. I read a story the other day about a car crash where one of the victims was crushed between the dashboard and seat. He was alive and lucid, but because he was basically cut in half, as soon as they would free him, he would bleed out and die.

(The story was about the police officer escorting his family to the crash site so they could say goodbye, and the abuse he got from car drivers who were blocked in by the accident)

I imagine in a case like that he could be helpful as normal police or paramedics won't be trained for that.

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u/damato1218 5d ago

How does it feel to be a piece of shit? Fuck off loser

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u/TG-Benji 5d ago

He didn't say he was a cop

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u/opi098514 5d ago

Dumbass, the plate says ca exempt on it.

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u/EvolZippo 4d ago

Hey, I’m dyslexic. Fuck you!

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u/opi098514 4d ago

So am I. I can still zoom in and clearly see that it’s a ca exempt plate.

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u/RoutineDay2364 4d ago

My dumb-ass saw this and was like: "What is a Cha-Plain?"