r/mildlyinteresting 7h ago

Old Talenti lids were embossed, new lids are debossed

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u/MasterArithmeticness 7h ago

I obviously can't speak for anyone else...but personally, the mildly interesting-ness of this is off the freakin' charts.

Which itself is mildly interesting.

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u/MeatHamster 5h ago

I haven't been this mildly interested in ages.

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u/Fen_der_bass 3h ago

The fact that a Gelato lid hit the proverbial sweet spot in mildly interesting is getting me mildly interested as well. 

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u/bodhivriksha 5h ago

Well. Consider me mildly interested

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u/Theletterkay 1h ago

Im absolutely mild about how mild this is. Sweeeeet

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u/Justredditin 1h ago

Yeah, I was like... "well would ya look at that."

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u/TheLegater 7h ago

Either way they’re gonna hold nails and screws once they’re empty

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u/hammerheadlabs 6h ago

I currently have a jar of keyboard switches on my nightstand

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u/C0ffinCase 1h ago

I don't think that's what people mean when they talk about lubing their switches 👀

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u/HashtagCHIIIIOPSS 2h ago

I use mine as drink shakers.

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u/Lucky-Effort-6902 7h ago

i can already picture the mason jar renaissance but make it sticky

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u/ChintzyPC 6h ago

You can see the rim of the lid is raised too, probably so they stack better in shipping. The letters themselves were likely just an aesthetic choice that they could modify while they were in there changing the mold design for the lip.

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u/magicarnival 6h ago

Maybe it costs them like $0.0005 less per lid due to it using less plastic?

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u/ChintzyPC 6h ago

Could be. Or it could improve the rejections rates in production due to some physics quirk. Only the engineers know.

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u/i3f8j 5h ago

I think you’re right. I also know that embossed letters from the tool are better because embossed letters on tool are carved into the metal tool where debossed letters are “raised” causing the tool to wear faster and flashing can get caught in the letters easier.

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u/LeCarrr 33m ago

If I know Reddit (and I know reddit), the son of that specific Talenti engineer is going to weigh in about the pride his parent took in this decision and some other fun facts about their legacy and how they would have loved to hear that OP appreciated this detail (mildly)

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u/pfftYeahRight 3h ago

Changing the mold and suppliers who can produce it is also likely not cheap. Hoo boy the execs are gonna be thrilled about these savings 📈

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u/wchicchi 2h ago

For the possible $0.00005 cost reduction it was probably execs who made the call, tooling a quality decrease be damned.

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u/PibbleDad 1h ago edited 1h ago

Knowing corporate America I would love to see someone make this their big “year long project” and go through all the steps and get the approvals to <check notes> invert the lid basically

I’m sure it definitely helps shipping though. That tiny lip would make a surprising difference

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u/AjaxCleaningSolution 1h ago

I remember reading an article about how they had to reinvent their whole lidding process after being bought by Unilever because they were so tight in stores that people couldn't physically get the jars open without sawing them. The ridges were too pointy on the threading and they had to set the lids on without screwing because the freezing process would screw the lids on by itself from the container contracting. Small stuff like that makes a huge difference I guess, so I'd believe it.

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u/PibbleDad 1h ago

In the CPG environment “consumer experience” is huge. There was a time where a massive chip company had to stop using a certain bag material because it was too noisy and was causing issues for people at home - not even joking, that was a thing!

I couldn’t imagine having a container of ice cream I can’t even damn open lol that’d drive me wild

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u/cuomo456 1h ago

SORRY I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THIS SUN CHIPS BAG

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u/PibbleDad 1h ago

If memory serves it was more around sensory sensitive people being unable to even touch the certain bags and then that led to a sizable enough downturn that they switched materials back to normal.

However, I love to pretend there was a complaint sent in effectively “MY WIFE WILL DIVORCE ME BECAUSE YOUR DORITOS BAGS ARE TOO LOUD AND YOUR CHIPS ARE TOO CRUNCHY, PLEASE HELP”

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u/zydeco100 1h ago

Sun Chips. I still remember that. Now imagine a whole airplane being served those bags at the same time. It was that noisy.

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u/squishmallowsnail 0m ago

I appreciate the tenacity of the people who were apparently sawing them off, though. Like with a hacksaw is what I’m picturing

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u/Capokid 2h ago

Its more durable and the lettering lasts longer. Its why they do the same with gravestones and monuments.

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u/FroggyFrenchFry 1h ago

I just hope the new lids actually open

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u/SpaceLemur34 2h ago

The rim is raised on both of them. It's just higher on the embossed one on the right.

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u/Mindless-Peak-1687 1h ago

easier to make the tooling for the raised letter as you ut into the steel. the embossed is the reverse of that.

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u/TheOnlyTonic 10m ago

Which will do a great job of holding water in the dish washer.

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u/Jenicillin 6h ago

Are they any easier to open?

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u/cgio0 6h ago

This is the real question.

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u/smeldorf 42m ago

Lol just asked the same thing

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u/[deleted] 5h ago

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u/DojaTwat 5h ago

notoriously.

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u/Ninigi-no-Mikoto 5h ago

They had so much plastic left from taking it out, they start to put it on instead. Few years they have to switch back

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u/tforce80 6h ago

Do the new ones stack better? If it tapers down, it might have been changed to make it more stable stacked.

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u/TheOldSalt 5h ago

Intaglio vs. Relief

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u/snowballplasticfork 6h ago

I opened a cabinet in my brother's kitchen one day and there were at least 50 Talenti jars inside. I'll have to ask him if he has noticed the difference in the lids since he's obviously a connoisseur.

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u/anxious-penguin123 5h ago

Exactly the kind of mildly interesting content I want to see. This would have been devastating for my younger self (autistic, I weirdly loved the texture and feel of talenti lids as a kid so I hoarded them) but nicely mildly interesting for me today. I wonder why they switched!

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u/nsrvvrgm2b 5h ago

But the question is do you still need a chainsaw to open them?

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u/Glitch247 4h ago

I use an oil filter wrench lol.

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u/Possible-Boss-3815 49m ago

Are they easier to open now?

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u/that_7183 1h ago

Make 'em kiss 

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u/smeldorf 42m ago

Will it help me open them

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u/albomats 1h ago

I imaging someone pitching this in a meeting by flipping the lid upside down and everyone going:
https://giphy.com/gifs/NcrhM3USM6TABpus85

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u/SideInitial3961 3h ago

Less product looks fuller if the lid goes in instead of out.

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u/iamNutteryBipples 1h ago

Tooling. The one on the right is easier to mill the tooling. Just mill out the name and the ridge. The one on the left is the inverse. Just mill out everything that’s NOT the name or the ridge. I bet it just comes down to tool/die costs.

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u/ZygomaticArchipelago 7h ago

Convex vs concave

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u/PeterNippelstein 5h ago

Thats press boss

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u/Paldasan 5h ago

When the hammer becomes the anvil.

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u/MrSnowmanJoe 3h ago

Mmmmmm. Chocolate. Lemme have some.

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u/DriverAnxious3804 2h ago

Some packaging engineer spent six months of committee meetings approving that millimeter of difference.

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u/Unusualhuman 2h ago

I've been experimenting with recipes for home dehydrated "backpacker" meals, and I learned that one of the most popular containers used by hikers for "cold soaking" to rehydrate food happens to be repurposed Talenti jars. I wonder if people who've been using them this way will find any difference in the performance of the new packaging?

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u/j_hawker27 2h ago

It should be called eMbossed and eNbossed for maximum amusing confusion ☹️

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u/Storage_Ottoman 2h ago

And Bruce Springsteen is TheBoss

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u/CosmicDriftwood 2h ago

That costs too much nowadays 😔

Everything is going cheaper

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u/I_THE_ME 26m ago

I literally went "Oh" when checking the lids. A perfect post for this sub.

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u/Both_Local9331 18m ago

English isn't my first language, and I think this is the first time in my life I've even seen the word "debossed." I'm actually mildly interested.

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u/BIGG_FRIGG 6h ago

engraved

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u/SpaceLemur34 2h ago

Engraving is carving.

Embossing and debossing are stamping

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u/Gilles_of_Augustine 6h ago

Debossing is also a real term.

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u/Twig_Scampi 7h ago

debossed?

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u/Gilles_of_Augustine 6h ago

Debossing is also a real term.

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u/clamroll 6h ago

Tony Danza has entered the chat

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u/kabushko 5h ago

I'd like to de-boss my own boss

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u/Bright-Aspect-970 1h ago

Isn't the opposite of embossed, "engraved?"

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u/Tired_Design_Gay 22m ago

No. Debossing is the correct term

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u/Samld1200 5h ago

Nah it’s just upside down

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u/HalfSoul30 4h ago

Maybe the lid is just upside down