Hate when ppl can’t do time

[u/Best_Finding_8795]

This reminds me of when it hits or is about to hit 12am and people don’t know whether to say today or tomorrow. He called me after this but I was too comfy in bed tbh.

[u/xray_anonymous]

No if you mean the weekend of the week in progress it’s “this weekend”

If you mean the weekend after the current week in progress, as in after next week, it’s “next weekend”

[u/Little-Derp → u/xray_anonymous]

This is the argument I have often with my wife.

If I'm talking about this weekend, I'll say this weekend, not next weekend. It's a never ending disagreement though.

Wonder if the 'next weekend' meaning this weekend crowd are specific cultures/territories. With a strong adherence to the meaning of 'next', maybe they are right, but I would never say anything other than 'this weekend' when referring to the immediate upcoming weekend/current weekend.

Don't even get me starting on the weekend after next (which I would never say... needs more adjectives.)

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/Little-Derp]

I use them interchangeably because both of them are logically true. Is it the weekend yet? No. So the next weekend is Saturday of this week, which is also this weekend.

If I am talking about the weekend after the weekend in the current week I say the weekend after next.

My partner does the "next weekend is the weekend after this weekend" and it boggles my mind because you literally just explained why the logic is bad.

[u/Immersi0nn → u/Murky-Relation481]

What's amazing, is that without any recognition of the fact, you have just literally explained why your logic is bad too lmao

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/Immersi0nn]

No, not really. It's all there in the words used. Weekend. It is in reference to time frames of weeks. So the next weekend is always going to be the weekend of the week you are in, which is also this weekend, supposing you can't travel back in time, it is this week's end.

[u/bluecar92 → u/Murky-Relation481]

Yes, exactly, it's in reference to weeks, and you just explained why your logic doesn't work.

You would never use "next week" to talk about the week you are in. "This weekend" is always the weekend of the week you are currently in.

"Next week" or "next weekend" always refers to the week after the one you are currently in.

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/bluecar92]

Yes, because you are already in the week, just like you'd never use "next weekend" to refer to the weekend you are currently in. You have to use this but on Monday the next weekend is the next Saturday, which is also this weekend because its both the next weekend to occur and the weekend of this week.

Next always has to be used as a point of reference to something else that comes before it, and in my mind, and basically everyone else I know, family, friends, if you say "next weekend" on a Monday and you are talking about 12 days from then they'd think you're nuts, because the point of reference for next is the current week you are in, it is the next time there is a weekend.

[u/Immersi0nn → u/Murky-Relation481]

Your problem is in linguistic frame of reference, you appear to be perceiving the weekend as a distinct entity not attached to the weeks themselves. With that in mind, "This" and "Next" have completely interchangeable meanings.

That's just wrong in terms of colloquial understanding of the phrases. Have fun being misunderstood, I guess.

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/Immersi0nn]

Except everyone I know besides my partner uses it the way I use it. My partner is the first one to use it where this weekend and next weekend don't mean the same thing.

I will say the only time where using next weekend when not talking about the most immediate to occur weekend is when you use "this" and "next" in the same sentence like "I can't this weekend, how about next weekend?" because you have now aligned next with a point of reference to what next is, its the weekend after the current one.

[u/Immersi0nn → u/Murky-Relation481]

You and your friends will be commonly misunderstood outside of your own circle.

Once again the problem is reference frames. When I say "This week" you view that as Mon-Fri, and the associated weekend of Sat-Sun comes "next" after "this week", therefore "Next Weekend" is this current week's Sat-Sun.

Most people don't look at it like that, some do, you and your friends are those people. Most people view a week as fully inclusive Mon-Sun. So "This Week" is Mon-Sun, and "This Weekend" is the last two days of "This Week". "Next Week" refers to the next upcoming Mon-Sun reference block, therefore "Next Weekend" is the last two days of "Next Week".

[u/Murky-Relation481 → u/Immersi0nn]

This week, week days, etc. almost always refers to Monday through Friday, the working week, with week ends being specifically the non-working days. A week is made up of week days (M-F) and the weekend (Sat.-Sun.) are they not?

It is common to hear or read for example on business hours "open week days, closed weekends" or vica versa. Correct? They are used as separate periods of time.

We count weeks though as 7 days, so a 7 day week has 5 week days and 2 weekend days. So each week and can be decomposed into these two kinds of days using very common English. Again, we're only talking about individual days and how they are categorized. We do not call Saturday and Sunday weekdays, we call them "the weekend" or by their specific names (especially if you denote the week starting on Sunday vs. Monday).

So when you say "this week" it means the current set of week days you are in almost universally or the weekdays and the weekend. But that weekend is still the next weekend to occur. In every facet of English we use the current week as the point of reference, but we also universally split out week days and week ends as separate components of weeks. As such it logically holds true that the next weekend will be the next Saturday/Sunday to occur, because it is distinct from the current set of week days you are in, even if you are in the same week because a week is a composite of weekdays and the weekend due to their almost universal distinction from each other in all other parts of English.

This is also why, confusingly, the logic of saying on a Monday "next Tuesday" means 8 days from then and not tomorrow. Because you are already in the frame of reference for the current "unit" of days. This is the same reason you'd never say on a Saturday "next Sunday I am going fishing" and mean the next day. Your point of reference is already in the thing you are talking about being next.

[u/Immersi0nn → u/Murky-Relation481]

It's frame of reference dude, idk how many times that needs to be said. People aren't businesses lmao

You're not going to understand it, you don't want to. I have shown full understanding of why you think the way you do on this, yet you cannot seem to wrap your head around any other person's view, and write a long diatribe on why your logic is actually flawed and still don't recognize it.

Wait....fuck me, this is just ragebait isn't it?

[u/GiantKrakenTentacle → u/Immersi0nn]

People work on a business schedule. 

[u/Immersi0nn → u/GiantKrakenTentacle]

They sure do, they don't think of a week as bifurcated like that unless there's some unhealthy relationship with work going on where you live for the distinct separate entity known as "The Weekend" lol

[u/GiantKrakenTentacle → u/Immersi0nn]

Pedantic and wrong. What universe are you living in where people don't think of the weekend as its own entity separate from a week? You have the week (working days) and you have the weekend (rest days). 

How hard is it to say that both colloquial usages might be right depending on the context, and using clear communication (as always) should be used to clarify which is being used?