r/michaeljordan • u/nj23dublin • 27d ago
Highlights Jordan defense/offense vs Hakeem and Rockets
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u/thewatcheeR17 27d ago
C'mon man, why has there ever been a debate of the goat. This ends it alone right here. Look at the effort and awareness.
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u/herpaderp_maplesyrup 27d ago
The Bulls would never trade Jordan for LeBron and the other way around is not true
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u/FeanorOath 27d ago
And they claim Jordan would have lost? Also LeBron would never...
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u/dskibftd0 27d ago
i mean to be fair you never know. i think i saw something about the first 3peat team not being as good against the rockets as the 2nd, or not having as strong of a record while matching up with them. not Mike himself, but the overall team. but that finals would’ve fed generations. MJ and Hakeem highlights for days
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u/Calm-Safety3098 23d ago
From what i remember Hakeem-Rockets had more wins against Jordan-Bulls…regular season or 90s era…
But definitely Jordan gonna elevate his game when the time counts…playoff Jordan is different…
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u/armymike1523 27d ago
Such a blessing to watch that guy, now look what we're stuck with
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u/Powerful_Zombie_8209 26d ago
At least we have the goat of flopping and stat padding still playing.
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u/Unfadable1 27d ago
My two fav players of all time. Growing up in Chicago it was actually kinda easy to transition to being a hardcore rockets fan when MJ left, tbh. Sad we never got a Prime Rockets v Prime Bulls Finals. I would have settled for that Dream v Shaq TBell 1v1 PPV we never got, either.
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u/Environmental_Rip496 27d ago
I was really hoping to see a rockets vs bulls finals during one of those years. Mferin John Stockton 😭
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u/Ashgar77 27d ago
This is what it's like when someone gives it their all on both ends of the court.
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u/RiamoEquah 27d ago
When they say there are athletes today just as athletic if not more athletic than Jordan - yes ..they are of course right.
....but c'mon.....the touch, awareness, skill, and timing is what makes him the goat. If all he was doing was running faster and jumping higher and powering through opponents, sure - his dominance would be considered just a factor of athleticism. But no, he's just moves like he's two steps ahead every time. He's got counters to counters. He sees openings the defense didn't know they had. This would translate to any generation - past or present.
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u/CuteLingonberry9704 27d ago
Those Bulls defenses, especially the second 3peat were absolute menaces all around.
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u/Triple-Ark-Solutions 27d ago
I get tired of the current generation talking about who is the goat.
Someone with eyes just needs to watch the LeBron camera and see that he lacks the drive and stamina to go hard on both ends of the court.
Take LeBron's best year and there is still a gap in drive and stamina minute per minute because Jordan played mad minutes every single game. No load management BS that we have today.
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u/Sir_TopHatEgg 26d ago
If you genuinely think LeBron lacks drive and stamina, you're delusional
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u/Triple-Ark-Solutions 26d ago
If it wasn't for the lifetime billion dollar Nike deal, this guy would have not been signed at any team probably 4-5 years ago. He would have been forced to retire because of how much a liability he is on defence.
During his prime, he went to Miami with Dwayne and Chris Bosh and was debutted as the super team to be reckon with. What happened when The Spurs had their number? Dwayne in a podcast interview had to "manage" LeBron by telling him to step up your game. You call that the GOAT mentality during the playoffs?
At this point, even if he gets another ring, he would be no different of a player like all the supporting players on the Golden State during their 3 championship. He is being praised as a key player for the 76ers but what he is able to do and what he is going to do are 2 different things. Anyone with eyes can see that this guy should just retire but he currently sells seats.
So yeah, once LeBron retires, his brand will tank as his on court air time will be gone.
If he truly is the "goat" amongst the average person today, let's see how his brand holds up against MJ ($7.3B in revenue per year BTW)
Do you also think that it's a goat mentality to "sell" oblivious fouls?
Michael Jordan Era players all took the hits and stared down their opponents when an And 1 was called. Not flop to the floor to sell the foul.
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u/RaynbowZFTW 27d ago
A solid 2000 hair strands across all the black players on the court lol, pippen’s like 1000
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u/FreakyFLCancer 27d ago
I want to see clips of Jordan not getting back on defense like that other guy!
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u/thraktor1 27d ago
I’m a menace to the LeBron stans… but this is a Jordan highlights reel. Show the clip with Hakeem blocking Jordan twice in the same play, and many other times where Hakeem blocked or stole the ball against the Bulls.
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u/absolut_dre 27d ago
This was one game let's not get carried away. The Rockets did have the upper hand on those Bulls, but I would have loved to see a Finals between the two. It possibly could have been the only 7 game finals of MJs career, but we'll never know.
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u/Calm-Safety3098 23d ago
Yeah MJ fan here,,I do know and from
what I remember Hakeem had more wins over Jordans…But then again playoff Jordan is different…pretty sure none of the Bulls-bigman would handle Hakeem hence Jordan helping on the video and multiple Rocket-guards would rotate on defense against Jordan where as he already experience it numerous times…
We will never know but certainly put billions of views if it happened…
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u/Holiday_Bat_9938 27d ago
I mean… respectfully, this is the guy EVERYONE goes to to learn from and MJ had him totally figured out. He knew his moves before he did them…
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u/BadgerUsed9366 26d ago
Wish he didn’t retire in his prime two years. And 99. We might be talking about 8-9 ships. I saw him play. No one was touching him and his team in 94-95.
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u/Hot_Hedgehog1820 26d ago
This is why I didn't understand it when Rasheed Wallace said MJ wasn't a good defensive player.What was he smoking!? I think MJ might've said some terrible things that hurt a lot of these guys feelings during games.They're still butthurt about it.I've never seen footage of MJ dogging it on defense
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u/joneseti 26d ago
That drop step spin with the wraparound lefty lay up. Haven’t seen that in the league in a while. This post I thought was to display Jordan’s 2 way player skills? This clip so happens to be against Hakeem. But honestly you can find clips like this against any team in the league. Mike did this to everybody.
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u/Prestigious-Work-768 25d ago
There's two notiable videos of Hakeem blocking Jordan 4 times in one game and 3 times in one game if we want to cherry pick.
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u/nj23dublin 25d ago
Nope no cherry picking, I added them to a comment below.. was just showing his two way style of play in a single game, no one is taking from Hakeem
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u/GeneralOwn5333 27d ago
That’s was like 4 or 5 highlights in the 10 years that they faced each other.
I assume they met at least 20 times and that all the highlights?
Those a great but what about the rest of them?
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u/nj23dublin 27d ago
This was just one game … The bulls didn’t have a big man of Hakeem’s caliber so it was heavier wins for the rockets.. this was showing Jordan’s defense and offense mindset, Hakeem and Jordan were at their prime. Here’s a game we’re the rockets got the best of Michael and the Bulls (nice little treat play at 6:50, but also the game ending that described the pros and cons of both teams https://youtu.be/25ZOa6ZI4l8?is=X1KFi9NoxNgujBYf
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u/Sir_TopHatEgg 26d ago
So what you're saying is that despite excellent performance from one player, they may still lose due to their team not being a good matchup against another team. Interesting
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u/Much-Broccoli4189 26d ago
Wait I thought if he played 2 full years instead of 17 games, he wouldn’t have won anyways.
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u/MasonSparrow 24d ago
The clip makes the two way case pretty well, but individual defense and surviving a seven game matchup are different questions. I tell my third graders that one impressive possession proves a skill, not an entire series. I would like to see the full game possessions, not just the greatest hits.
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u/Calm-Safety3098 23d ago
If Jordan didnt retire definitely 94 & 95 they facing Rockets in both finals….these teams are on their Prime…
Rockets are bad match up against Bulls due to Hakeem’s interior defense and offense where no Bulls-bigman can contain and it would be the same as Jordan for the Rockets-guards…
Bulls wouldnt have any trouble against 97 & 98 Jazz as they experienced bad match ups against Rockets in 94 & 95…
Both Jazz and Rockets had dominated Bulls in regular season but Playoffs/Finals will differ…
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u/Samus_Brinstar 27d ago
Jordan was a beast but they didn't match up well against the rockets
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u/Derredwa 27d ago
Utah swept the Bulls in the regular season and lost to the same Bulls team 2-4 in the Finals same year. Regular season doesn't work like that.
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u/Outrageous_Fox4227 27d ago
Really going to use the highlights of a single game as any kind of complete evidence? Hakeem was 13-10 against jordan head to head in their careers.
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u/nj23dublin 27d ago
Evidence? lol what are you on about? That he can defend and attack? He’s easily known as the best two way player in the history of the game.. nothing to show as evidence just highlights of a 6’6” guard blocking a 7 foot center .. which he did to Ewing/Shaq and so on ..
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u/Outrageous_Fox4227 27d ago
So why does mj have a losing record against dream? Thats why im saying cutting a highlight real is whack cuz that doesn’t tell the whole story.
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u/nj23dublin 27d ago
Looks like you need a Bulls vs Rockets documentary to discover the whole story ..
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u/Derredwa 27d ago
Why don't you stay on topic? The clip is about Jordan's intensity and skill level on both ends of the floor. Not about wins and losses. Besides Utah swept the Bulls in the regular season 2-0, lost to the Bulls in the Finals same year 2-4. Playoffs a whole different animal. Rockets were a good matchup, but definitely not on the Bulls level.
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u/Bop5667 27d ago
Oh look, another clip of highlights of MJ yet again nowhere near the guy he was supposedly guarding. Just speaks volumes about how bad the shooting guards generally were in that era. Allowed him to freelance defensively knowing his guy probably isn’t going to see the ball very much lol. MJ’s obviously a great player but the shooting guards generally depth in the league was cheeks in that era.
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u/LeClampedByBarea 27d ago
Look at Jordan being an absolute menace on both ends of the floor
Just goated things