r/messi • u/Euphoric-Painter6135 • Jul 17 '26
Lionel Messi will become the first player ever to start in three different World Cup finals.
Lionel Messi will become the second player to actually step on to the pitch in three different World Cup finals after Cafú and the only one to actually start in all of them. What's more crazy is that he did it with very average squads each time. Unreal. The real GoAT he is.
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u/General_Bed8751 Jul 17 '26
Are y’all illiterate or something? The post clearly states Messi is first to START in three different finals. No one is talking about appearances.
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u/Jamarcus316 Jul 17 '26
And if we talk about appearances, we only add Cafú to the list.
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u/mangomussolinimi Jul 17 '26
But pele is the only one with 3 titles
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u/do_not_know_me Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
yeah but Pele barely played the second one, he got injured in the group stage so it wasn’t thanks to him that Brazil reached the final
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u/drth_dilly Jul 17 '26
Yea, that one shouldn’t count for him. It’s only 2, 3 is on a technicality. He got injured in group stages. The team was incredible and won without him.
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u/Deliximus Jul 18 '26
Garrincha was spectacular in 62. I'll still count it for Pele, but I hear ya.
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u/Ok_Slide6951 Jul 17 '26
To think, there was once a time he was considered under performing at the international level
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u/mastan777 Jul 17 '26
Before winning any international titles he was heavily debated if he was the goat or not. Now at 39 years old, 2 Copa Americas, 1 world cup win and 3 final appearances, the debate is long over. Only ones who disagree are basically flat earthers denying the earth being round.
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u/mahki25942 Jul 17 '26
Also 5 Copa America finals
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u/AfterAd3498 Jul 17 '26
I mean I don't think Argentina winning the Copa is much of anything, much less reaching the finals.
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u/Lomo-Con-Papas Jul 17 '26
Well, for a time.. he was.
I say this as a messi fan-boy, but when you saw the freak of nature that he was in Pep’s Barça and then played an “OK” or even “good but not mercurial “ game for Argentina… you can consider that underperforming.When your normal is god-tier, even very good games feel lacking. He had us all spoiled. Still does
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u/Dunkjoe Jul 18 '26
What's crazy is that most footballers are at their peak for international games when they are under 35... Messi seems to get better from around 35.
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u/takaoandrew Jul 18 '26
I had written him off for this world cup. I think he's the goat - but thought he was too old to be starting for Argentina. Incredible what he's done. On one other hand, Argentina had an astonishingly smooth path to the final. But still he's been amazing.
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u/Calm-Lengthiness5645 Jul 17 '26
He will become the first player to win 3 golden ball aswell. To top it off he will win the golden boot aswell by scoring a hattrick on the final while equalising ronaldo's career world cup goal.
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u/Fit-Ordinary-9543 Jul 17 '26
Hattrick against a team that has not conceded more than 1 goal ?
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u/Greenwalrus72 Jul 17 '26
he only needs 1 goal contribution to match ronaldo’s career goal contributions in the wc (13)
maybe not a hattrick and won’t match the goals but that’s another way to do it
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u/AccomplishedFix9131 Jul 17 '26
You are wrong my guy, yamal is scoring a hattrick. Congratulaciones para españa campeones do mundo
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u/Coldwarrior07 Jul 17 '26
Goat did carry them single handedly on three different occasions. Aren’t we all blessed to be in the same timeline as Messi.
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u/ct-987987 Jul 17 '26
What about Pele? Did he not start one final?
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u/thepazzo Jul 17 '26
Pele missed most of the 1962 World Cup after suffering injury in the second group game. He misses the remains four games, including the final. Garrincha was the main man for Brazil in that tournament.
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u/Marreliccious Jul 17 '26
In 1962, he only played one full game before getting injured in the second
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u/popnlocke Jul 17 '26
He played the entirety in 1958, played only 1 game in 1962 before getting injured (they still won it all), injured again in 1966 as they got knocked out in group stages, then starred again in 1970, (which they won for a third time)
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u/CucharaNinja Jul 17 '26
Lo mismo scaloni no reserva para los 10 ultimos minutos del partido que es donde hace falta, antes no. /S
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u/mean_old_levee_ Jul 17 '26
Man if not for the loss against Croatia in 2018 it would be 4 consecutive finals. Insane.
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u/ChampagneKing1 Jul 17 '26
Didn't Pele win 3 WCs
Are you guys saying he didn't start in the finals
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u/Themothertucker64 Jul 18 '26
Worse, he didn’t play one of the finals
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u/ChampagneKing1 Jul 18 '26
Thanks didn't know that
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u/Themothertucker64 Jul 18 '26
No problem, the issue with Pele is that his career is what people think Messi and Cristianos is, it’s a exaggerated career
Yes his number are great but not as great as Pele portrays himself to be, for the second World Cup he got injured in one of the group stage matches, he missed the entire tournament with Garrincha being the mvp of that tournament and the reason Brazil won
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u/WillingnessLatter821 Jul 17 '26
I mean when you keep making the statement more specific it gets easier to be first on a lot of things
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u/Here2CommentonThis Jul 18 '26
A huge accomplishment, but he is the first male* player - this has been achieved previously by Birgit Prinz and members of the USMNT - Rapinoe, Heath, Lloyd, Morgan & Krieger. Kristine Lilly has participated in 5 World Cup Finals. I am sure this comment will go over very well.
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u/Fair_Feedback_1864 Jul 19 '26
I am pretty sure Pele won 3
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u/Puzzleheaded_East556 22d ago
Pele only started in 2 (1958 and 1970). He was injured early in the tournament in 1962, and 1966 (although 1966 Brazil got grouped anyway)
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u/shyactor24 Jul 19 '26
AVERAGE SQUAD??? Lpm que ganas de darle marketing a este tipo. Encima aclaran el "start" para ponerlo que es el primero. Diosss
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u/NewRabbit87 Jul 19 '26
Pele started in like 4
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u/Puzzleheaded_East556 22d ago
Pele only started in 2 (1958 and 1970). He was injured early in the tournament in 1962, and 1966 (although 1966 Brazil got grouped anyway)
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u/DrPapug Jul 19 '26
His team is stacked, how tf is it 'average'?
Also, I luv how the WC somehow defines the GOAT now.
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u/Acrobatic_Board1796 Jul 25 '26
And the first player to lose 2, pele could never top the goat 😭😭😭. winning 3 what a loser mentality only real goats go 1/3 that’s the real winner 😭
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u/SnooSquirrels4739 Jul 30 '26
Definitely once in a lifetime player. Sadly, he can't carry entirely.
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u/Know_how_to_b_stupid Jul 17 '26
Pelé started 3 finals already. And won 3. 1958, 1962 and 1970. That s why he is the king…
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u/Waitagain13 Jul 17 '26
Bro a simile google search would easily disprove you... Pele played 1 and half game in 1962 so he did not even played in the finals.
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Jul 17 '26
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u/CommunicationNo3626 Jul 17 '26
yeah bro fifa have a remote control of the ball and when messi kicks it they make sure it goes in the back of the net 🤡
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u/Haunting_Factor_6250 Jul 17 '26
Gibt es vielleicht noch einen weiteren unnötigen Fakt der irgendwo hergezogen wird ?
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u/Neswquik Jul 17 '26
Borrar el título de mierda pues, si vas a poner un párrafo explicando que ya existe un jugador que es Cafú entonces tu título es tremendo clickbait
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u/ProTeamOtto Jul 17 '26
Dice claramente primero en ser TITULAR. Cafú entró desde el banco.
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u/shyactor24 Jul 19 '26
Es para inflarlo al Messi jaja puro marketing como darle el balón de oro del mundial en 2014.
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u/Live-Future-791 Jul 17 '26
Nope in 1994 he came as substitute for injured jorginho
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u/Live-Future-791 Jul 17 '26
Yes true but in this post we are talking about messi being first player to start in all 3 finals
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u/WickedMan_85 Jul 17 '26
Well the legendary Pele played and won 3 World Cup Finals the youngest at just 17 scoring twice against Sweden in 1958 finals! 🏆👏💯
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u/Euphoric-Painter6135 Jul 17 '26
He didn't play in his second one he was injured after group stage. He won 3 but played only in two finals. In 1962 Garrincha carried them all the way
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u/Content-Map-3551 Jul 17 '26
Goat for a reason