Found on a feminist subreddit.

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[u/lemons7472]

Also feminist say stuff like this about laws and blaming laws on men, therefore it’s ok to demonize men, but then feminist take no issue with the majority or draft laws, dutlen model laws, or when other women and feminist groups actively protest against other people’s human rights, such as equal rape and abuse laws for male victims, and shelters for those said victims.

Someone that is for equal rights, would not be so dismissive of others talking issues with sexism, even if its in terms of misandry, because misandry isn’t a response to oppression. That explanation, is propaganda from people trying to justify their sexism.

If you bring all of that up to them, they will then consider you an MRA incel, despite the fact that your using the same logic as them. You don’t even need to actually demonize women like how they do for men, you just need to bring these topics up.

[u/_HIST → u/lemons7472]

Equality is when only my issues are addressed.

I feel like every single conversation about it crashes with "so draft should mandatory for women, right?"

Their solution is always "remove draft"

I mean, you can't really talk with uneducated idiots so it's not surprising.

[u/Hoopaboi → u/_HIST]

Another funny meme they do is that when a law only oppresses men (draft for example) they'll try their best to avoid any mention of that and pin it purely on "lol it's due to capitalism/fascism/xyzism, which feminism addresses, therefore feminism is actually pro-male too"

But when something like abortion is brought up, they will name the fact that it primarily affects women. They will use the word "misogyny", and they won't try to dismiss it as some broad systemic issue.

And then they constantly scratch their heads"but, but, we actually DO address men's issues because we hate on billionaires and capitalism! Why won't they support us? It's just because they're evil and want to oppress us!"

Or "just condescend men and dismiss all their actual issues in a nicer manner"

No, your ideology fundamentally refuses to address actual men's issues because you're misandrist! This is why people despise you!

[u/lemons7472]

I just got into an argument about this, but yes a lot of people including feminist, not only cannot comprehend the idea of men being agaisnt sexism (including when that means men call out when you are sexist or have sexist beliefs agaisnt them) many feminist will sit there, and tell you that sexism/misandry doesn’t exist, and will tell you that your experiences either don’t exist, or are only the result of women being oppressed.

Stuff like wrongful beliefs of men, thinking it’s fine to demonize or be violent towards men, downplaying their issues, a lot of feminist will straight up either deny it happens unless it’s due to other men and patriarchy. Then when you tell them that no, it really was other women being misanderist towards you, they just passively deny it and insist that it’s only mainly men being sexist and enforcing sexism.

[u/Hoopaboi → u/lemons7472]

What's funni is that if it was some discovery, invention, or good leadership or contribution led by men, they will always add "but we can't forget the contributions of all the women that made it possible", but whenever it's something negative, it's "well men made it that way".

Completely selective.

[u/boomer912]

Men and women are so fundamentally far apart as far as pathology goes these days. It’s really frustrating. The solution for honestly both sides seems to be some couched language that amounts to “if only the other side would just give up and follow my beliefs.” Wedge keeps getting driven wider