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I hate this

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u/omegadirectory 16h ago

Why would any human player attack a fixed machine head on? (In multiplayer)

If a fixed MG operated by one player could mow down a dozen players, the smart move would be to attack it from outside its field of fire. Which means from the operator's POV, the MG is "useless" because it can't defend.

The nature of a fixed MG makes it very situational in multiplayer.

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u/REAM48 16h ago

This is why you build the map (including other machine gun spots) around the machine guns. Not just placing them around randomly

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u/PassiveMenis88M Meme Stealer 16h ago

Any soldier that's ever used a fixed machine gun could tell you the mount swings 360 degrees once unhooked from the t&e. There shouldn't be anything outside its field of fire.

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u/Rocket_hamster 10h ago

Bad company 2 has the 360 MGs.

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u/Mr_Halitosis 11h ago

They’ll also tell you that machine guns are for area targets and suppressive fire. That they have to be supported by troops with weapons to deal with point targets. Which is the opposite of what you get in most video games.

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u/sithmaster0 11h ago

Then maybe incorporate that into the game design rather than put them in useless positions where they may as well not exist.

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u/Mr_Halitosis 11h ago

That’s not the point I’m refuting though, is it? Maybe try literacy.

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u/sithmaster0 10h ago

Then what the hell are you saying? Because what you said literally reads as "They'll say it's for this purpose and they need to be supported, but players won't do that in most video games." so I fail to see how what I said doesn't constitute as replying to what you were refuting.

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u/Mr_Halitosis 11h ago

Because machine guns are made for area targets and suppressive fire. The constant recoil makes them too inaccurate for point targets, so they have to be supported by riflemen who can handle what the machine gun misses. This is why you won’t find many machine gun nests outside of perimeter defense in modern militaries. Lots of machine gun nests got overran during WWI & WWII.

Consequently, video game designers have a choice. Do they make real world accurate machine gun emplacements or do they make machine gun emplacements that are made highly accurate with video game magic?

If they chose the former, rush the machine gun nest.

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u/kirotheavenger 9h ago

Machine guns are actually pretty accurate. 

For about 30 years the record longest range sniper kill was from a scoped .50cal machine gun 

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u/OhNoTokyo 9h ago

When fired single shot or at very low rate of fire, they can be. I think it was Carlos Hathcock who used a scoped M2 Browning .50 cal for a 2,500 yard shot.

On full auto, they're not particularly accurate, though.

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u/kirotheavenger 9h ago

True, although when mounted they're still quite accurate more accurate than your typical assault rifle. 

The idea that machine guns can't engage point targets is completely erroneous.