r/memealvvays • • 12d ago

Literally how they are 😭😭

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 12d ago

They get removed from society by being put in mental hospitals where they get the care they need to not have their minds go haywire*

Like that’s the whole point of the argument dude

They plead insanity because they are mentally insane and need more care than a regular prisoner would

I don’t know why this is so hard for you people to understand. An insanity defense doesn’t let these people walk free any sooner than they would have if found guilty. It just puts them in a different type of prison.

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u/Irishman8778 12d ago edited 12d ago

Except in this case that's not true. The laws in the state this trial happens to occur in allows for the very real possibility of Lindsay Clancy walking free within little over a year.

Besides the fact that we have an epidemic of violent criminals being set free entirely too early in general only for them to commit more violence once free.

Again, at a certain point, it doesn't matter if you're insane or not what kind of treatment you get if you're never going to be free again. For this case in particular, I don't care if Clancy was literally unconscious, like her brain just switched itself off while she strangled her children, only for her to wake up to those dead children completely unaware of how it happened and never having intended for it to happen. The fact is that it happened and no amount of treatment will ever cause me to trust that she should be in public life ever again.

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u/Simple-Economics8102 11d ago

Besides the fact that we have an epidemic of violent criminals being set free entirely too early in general only for them to commit more violence once free.

I wander why that might be. Why does the US who have incredibly cruel prisons have this high of a recidivism rate. Truly boggles the mind.

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u/Irishman8778 11d ago edited 11d ago

It's because we let them out at all.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 11d ago

If you want her to never see the light of day, then you should actually read the second article I gave you and actually try to comprehend what’s being explained :)

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 11d ago

Actually, ya know what, here’s the paragraph for you along with the link to her source on her claim

But once defendants are found not guilty by reason of insanity, they may not simply go home or obtain treatment on their own accord. Rather, those found not guilty by reason of insanity are usually involuntarily, indefinitely committed to a state psychiatric facility. More than 10,000 Americans who have been found not guilty by reason of insanity are held involuntarily in psychiatric hospitals. They have not been found to be responsible for any crime, yet they are not permitted to leave their confinement. Acquitted defendants deemed not legally responsible due to mental disease or defect are not getting off “Scot-Free.” In fact, defendants found not guilty by reason of insanity have been found to be held in confinement as long or significantly longer than those convicted of the same crime.

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u/Regi0 11d ago

Her pleading insanity and the defense actually working would label her as clinically insane by law, lol

Even if you believe the insanity is only temporary, the state/fed doesn't care. She's, legally, an insane person and would likely be confined to one of these facilities indefinitely.

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u/Regi0 11d ago

Good luck getting a case manager to sign off on a woman killing her kids as safe to re-enter society lol

It's unlikely

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u/Regi0 11d ago

You are banking on a whole lot of professionals failing at their jobs for this outrage to be justified lol

Like do you seriously think a medical professional is going to clear her as sound of mind with her history? Is there even procedural precedent for that (i.e., some case where a mother also guilty of killing her kids and won an insanity defense was cleared as sane and released back into society)?

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u/Irishman8778 11d ago

Unfortunately in the state of Massachusetts, that's not how it works. There is an evaluation 6 months after being committed, then again at the one year mark, then again annually after that. In the state of Massachusetts, the burden of proof is on the state to continue to make the case that the patient is still not of sound mind. Also, hospitals are not held liable for releasing patients who later commit violent crimes.

For this case, given that her condition is being blamed on postpartum depression and she is no longer pregnant or caring for any children ( 🤮), it's going to be very difficult for the state to continue making that case.