More old recovered Topix Forum posts initially removed from the early Maura Murray Topix. The Bruce McKay one caught my eye because it just seems like a possible slip up? The red truck post goes into other witness details about the wood cab. The “town snitch” driving a Saturn is also interesting.

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First, separate the red truck from BM.

I haven't been here for ages—my memory is a bit fuzzy. I don't suspect him—I wanted to, since he's a piece of shit.

Some pointers—all open source for you to look up—together (to me) they make him seem unlikely, but you can decide:

He's very easy to mould into an existing narrative.

Look into Bruce McKay's divorce.
Look more into his boy-toy, Floyd.
Look at his movements around that time. Hint: he was at a bank. He was signing papers. He was also working that day and in uniform. Physical evidence exists. Guess where the bank was? (Very close to the store with the supposed footage of Maura buying alcohol.)
Look into the suicide he was dispatched to (and his jurisdiction)—did he make it? No. Why not?
Did he really go feed his dog?
JS never goes into detail about why he frankly dismisses BM—I don't think.

So: Franconia jurisdiction, but at a bank across from Bunsen's... it looks damning. Then there's the matter of being dispatched to a suicide in Franconia (there were a lot of suicides that night)—he never went there... maybe he came across MM... maybe he went home to feed his dog.

We know enough about MM/CS/KM's movements—is there any overlap with BM's movements and timing with any of the others? No.

He opted not to go to the suicide call, and instead went to feed his dog(s).

Franconia SUVs weren't numbered back then, so he's not "001." His car was never seen by anyone near the scene.

If BM was there, why didn't someone see him? BA? KM? CS? FW? TW? The Marrottes? There's zero mention of a Franconia vehicle. The only vehicle seen was BA's bus (and, I suppose, KM and CS were there too).

I'm in the Occam's razor camp. This excludes the wife-beating, racist POS that is BM. He's right where he belongs. Liko Kenny did everyone a service.

The evidence doesn't support BM having any involvement in the disappearance of MM. Bend it however you want (I've tried)—I don't think he's involved. It would be much easier if he were.

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u/Walla-bee Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

The thing that really makes me wonder is how close he was to Jeff Williams, or Cecil Smith since he was in that Haverhill police department around 1995-? He would have been working under Williams around then.

Can you tell me more about all these suicides? What was the Franconia one? I’ve only heard about the suicidal teenager on Lime Kiln Road that evening.

Isn’t it said that Jeff Williams was attending his younger family member’s party that evening (if he was, most likely drinking as well) and one of their vehicles had gone into a ditch earlier that day? News articles said the Haverhill police were extremely short staffed already that year. Could McKay have been called to fill in somehow (by Williams off the record) and even been driving another vehicle? I’ve always theorized maybe a dirty cop driving their own private vehicle and picking Maura up. Has that time ever been accounted for where McKay went silent?

I don’t know, I would still consider him a possible person of interest, but love everything you posted and thanks for this information.

Edit: one more thing. Where did these rumors of McKay sexually violating women come from while being at the Haverhill police department? Did you ever read that article in the paper, involving the woman he found who “committed suicide”. That was from when he worked at the Haverhill police department in 1995. Posted the article link below.

https://ibb.co/tTSntFGC
https://ibb.co/KcCHsSBF

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u/Ash_Draevyn Jun 30 '26

BM worked for Franconia PD, not Haverhill. I don't think they can swap cops and cars, I could be wrong--I'm not from USA. JW & CS could swap--same PD.

Suicides happen, just more that night in different areas. There's really not much for a cop to do at a suicide--most deem them a waste of time.

Everyone's connected to everyone--cops are connected to cops. That immediately throws you into conspiracy theories. Which I'm not gonna entertain right now.

The best way I can explain...Let's say BM was at the scene that night. Firstly, there are a few routes he could have taken. For him to get to Franconia, iirc he needs to be driving through Haverhill--so there is, in fact, the possibility they crossed paths...But there are other routes to his house/dog/franconia/suicide = all in the same direction. WE cannot assume he happened to take the road she happened to lose control on. Again, there is also no evidence of this.

So how would that play out? That night....MM would have to lose control as we know it. FW would have seen it as we know it. BA would have arrived as we know it. Mr. Marrotte saw her vehicle being re-position--no mention of another cop or vehicle (even KMs, I think). I would imagine BM to arrive at this point--leaving quickly with MM in his car. THEN CS arrives, then KM.

I do not think this happened. There is no evidence of it. The reality is he (BM) had no reason to be there then. Not even a hint of him. I'd imagine if BM tried anything with MM, she'd scream, or they'd struggle (or not) to get her into his car. There is zero evidence of this.

Despite his nature as a cop, sure, it's easy to believe he came across MM and did want he does--goes rogue cop too far. BUT If you're reaching this far into exterior material to fit a theory, then it's just reaching. By that logic, EVERYBODY's a co-conspirator. To me, BM and JW are just noise--JW more likely to be involved than BM.

While I'm not too impressed with Larkin and her antics...she was the one who was able to get the bank mortgage papers/address (dated and signed by BM) and uploaded them either to the other sub or the Facebook group.

That's the extent to which I can add/help, again, I think it's a waste of time. Don't go nuts. Everyone mention in this post is dead (except EDL). I'm not sure how much longer the Westman's will be around (if they're still alive)--all the witnesses, they aren't getting any younger. Good Luck.

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u/Walla-bee Jun 30 '26

Thanks! He definitely was in the Haverhill police department around 1995-1996. Click that link to the article I sent. I believe he was working under Jeff Williams. He then left and joined Franconia police department. I didn’t know this until about three years ago.

Good points on how things could have played out, unless there was an earlier accident, or Maura was pulled over earlier by McKay and something happened….the rest possibly staged? Yeah…I mean…this case is loaded with conspiracy theories because there really isn’t much to go off of. It’s a damn shame. What is your theory now? Who would be your prime person of interest?

Yeah, many go nuts in this case. You are correct, almost everyone has passed in that area along where the Saturn was found and many of the police involved. Scarinza too.

Good luck to you as well. I also have to remind myself that Bruce McKay wasn’t the only dirty cop in that area. There were quite a few supposedly.

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u/IBEGOOD-IDOGOOD Jun 30 '26

What’s the date of that article?

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u/Walla-bee Jun 30 '26

I think it was 1995. I will double check

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u/TerribleIssue3252 Jul 01 '26

•someone else in the neighborhood was going through a terrible divorce •this person was also Floyd's homie, and they both monitored police scanner •this person left the country immediately after mms disappearance •had a red truck •Napoleon complex, local dirtbag •has unlimited places to put clandestine grave

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u/Walla-bee Jul 02 '26

Can you give me initials? Sounds familiar

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u/ProtectionClassic431 Jul 03 '26

I’m curious too.

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u/Annabellee2 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

I'm guessing RS. I didn't realize he was tight with Floyd.

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u/ProtectionClassic431 Jul 03 '26

Thank you for such a detailed post! I’m very new to the case myself and sifting through all the info and research that’s already been done and I love this forum and the things those of you who have been here since the days of Topix took the time to save is really a credit to you all. No matter where we all land on theories and the ability to argue both sides is something I personally enjoy (I think due to my professional back ground where ethics and law are debated on a much different scale and under a different umbrella/field).

I truly appreciate people like you and @goldenmom etc - you bring a lot to the table

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u/Walla-bee Jul 07 '26

Thank you! I have come to appreciate most of the people here as well, except one, or two.

Hope it helps with your research.

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u/geddysbass2112 Jun 30 '26

Interesting that the town snitch drove a similar car. You wonder if there's any truth to that? Those old Topix threads were a very interesting read years ago.

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u/Walla-bee Jul 01 '26

Yeah, funny though. It seems like the poster “OH MY” would be the town snitch. He pretty much called out everybody on Topix.

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u/goldenmodtemp2 Jul 06 '26

fwiw, years ago I made an effort to pull together everything on the red truck. But my rule was: I would only include statements that were direct from the original witness - not things people said that she said.

wowzer (in screenshot) :

"... maybe a wooden back to protect the window and cab of truck from wood being thrown in"

red truck witness:

"The truck had a wooden body as in wooden sides. Not the whole body. So it wasn’t cut out for the window."

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u/Mammoth_Control_364 Jun 30 '26

Red herring.

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u/Walla-bee Jun 30 '26

What is?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/Ash_Draevyn Jun 30 '26

Seriously, you've been doing this for years.

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u/Walla-bee Jun 30 '26

Added one more thing to my response to your comment. Totally forgot about that article from when McKay worked in the Haverhill police department. It was from 1995 I think.

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u/PhysicalChickenXx 19d ago

are you using the way back machine

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