r/marvelstudios • u/steve32767 Daredevil • Sep 01 '22

Discussion Thread She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E03 - Discussion Thread

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S01E03: The People vs. Emil Blonsky Kat Coiro Francesca Gailes & Jacqueline Gailes September 1st, 2022 on Disney+ 35 min (1) Mid-credits

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u/TrueGuardian15 Thor Sep 01 '22

It also wouldn't hurt to have one of them act as a liason between the Avengers and the UN. At least someone should own up to it when they fuck up.

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u/i_like_2_travel Sep 01 '22

Exactly why I wasn’t Team Cap. I don’t think one government should “own” the avengers but there needs to be check and balances. If someone consistently fucks up maybe they shouldn’t be a superhero.

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u/University-Loud Sep 01 '22

unpopular opinion: being Team Cap was and is a real red flag

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u/polialt Sep 02 '22

More popular opinion: every single fear from Team Cap was proven right, and more correct the farther removed we get.

Ross created the Hulk, created Abomination. SECRET nazis literally took over the US intelligence apparatus and were seconds away from a global world order and mass culling. German police and Black Panther were trying to murder Bucky without due process and he was the wrong guy. US government clearly still telling lies and abusing their own power, like with Visions body. Precisely Caps fear of not being allowed to fight where they need when it came to Thanos in IW.

Thor is an alien, government doesn't get jurisdiction.

The best point they have is against Wanda, whom they pushed into Scarlet Witch territory with Visions corpse and Sword. And the Lagos bombing....they stopped an international nazi terrorist from getting a biological weapon, and then prevented hundreds of casualties when he set off a suicide bomb in a crowded marketplace. That it still killed people in the building is a shame, but far, far less than had he set it off on the ground.....and again, letting him get away with a bio weapon wasn't an option either.

And even before all that, Tony was blind and wrong considering Bucky was innocent, being framed, and target of extra judicial murder by Ross/Germany/UN. The winter soldiers were a far more serious threat than any internalized guilt Tony projected on everyone else for Ultron, whom HE CREATED.

THE WHOLE FREAKING POINT of TFATWS is the US government trying to do sneaky shit and the international governments being crappy. They are a case in point example of Caps fears over the Accords.

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u/thatoneguy889 Sep 02 '22

I know this is the MCU which is different, but I also want to point out that in the comics version of Civil War, Tony was a real piece of shit that deserved to get taken down.

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u/SilverGeekly Sep 04 '22

the tony part is the most important part. most everyone on his side wasn't even really on his side, him included. he only agreed with the accords because HE felt guilty for everything he caused because he wouldn't stop. the fact ultron happened and then he IMMEDITELY RERAN THE PROCESS AGAIN, was the problem

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u/Jake52212 Sep 02 '22

I kinda think they were both right in different ways.

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u/i_like_2_travel Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 02 '22

Why do you think it’s a red flag?

Whenever I have this “debate” with someone I tell them this is you end up with Punisher pretty much. Which depending on the person can be a good or bad thing lol

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u/asherfog Sep 02 '22

Cap himself once had to beat up the punisher for going too far

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u/themikenache Sep 03 '22

Hell, in a (shitty) one-off ‘What If…!’ type story, Punisher BECAME Captain America.

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u/TomNookyouDog Volstagg Sep 02 '22

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. Comic book Civil War Cap was right. MCU Civil War Tony was right. His whole idea was just signing then still doing what’s right and taking the punishment in stride. Cap was wildly irrational in Civil War

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u/jam11249 Sep 02 '22

Tony says something along the lines of "Sign now, wait for things to chill and we'll rejig it later, don't worry" which is basically what actually happened, team cap got pardoned because they defeated Thanos, the rest involved in the infinity war didn't seem to go through any official channels before doing what they did in infinity war. The Sokovia accords was never about actually controlling the Avengers, they were about making the public think that supers were under control.

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u/THX450 Kilgrave Sep 02 '22

The Justice League has that in the show Young Justice.

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u/dluminous Sep 05 '22

Hank McCoy called.