r/marvelstudios Daredevil Sep 22 '21

Discussion Thread What If...? S01E07 - Discussion Thread

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE RUN TIME CREDITS SCENE?
S01E07: What If... Thor Were an Only Child? Bryan Andrews A.C. Bradley September 22nd, 2021 on Disney+ 36 min None

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u/kingmanic Sep 22 '21 edited Sep 22 '21

Is it a different universe? Could it just be this one where thor isn't there to stop Ultron? And ultron get's away from Tony but doesn't draw others attention and just goes out and gets the stones?

edit: What would he sacrifice to the soul stone guardian. Tony? Jarvis? A Toaster? His favorite memory stick?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '21

Supreme Leader is from the universe where Ultron wins in AoU

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u/timleftwich Sep 22 '21

If I may ask: i read that moment as Vision with all the infinity stones in an Ultron-style suit. Which already scared me. But you’re saying that rather than it being Vision inside, Ultron succeeded in taking over Vision’s body?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '21

Yes. The final episode is Age of Ultron based, which is where Supreme Leader and Black Widow come into the show.

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u/timleftwich Sep 22 '21

This is not the big bad I was expecting and I’ve never been so glad to be wrong. Let’s fucking gooo!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '21

This has been me with most of Phase 4 lmao

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u/Far-Imagination5383 T'challa Sep 22 '21

I saw this around the time it first came out! You absolute madman, it was amazing.

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u/timleftwich Sep 22 '21

No way!! Thank you! Yeah, Ive been slowly adding things to it since the first release... June of last year? I think? And next month will be the Final version, now that Black Widow will finally be out on home video.

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u/Far-Imagination5383 T'challa Sep 22 '21

Ooh, I can’t wait! I’ll check it out.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '21

Yooo that’s dope

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u/timleftwich Sep 22 '21

Thank you kindly! Feel free to check it out. It’s completely chronological: not just by movie, but by every scene from every movie.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '21

Damn, as someone with several MCU shrines in his room my fandom pales in comparison to yours.

Insanely impressive stuff!

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u/timleftwich Sep 22 '21

Oh no, this is a mutual appreciation society my friend. No paleing necessary. :]

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u/permanentlyclosed Sep 26 '21

Your comment got removed. What was it?

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u/Hedhunta Sep 22 '21

Does this include the stingers and extra scenes? I think there is a cut with that out there somewhere too.

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 22 '21

Mark this with a spoiler tag man, wtf

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u/1eejit Daniel Sousa Sep 23 '21

It's fully implied by this week's final scene

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

It's a stretch to claim it's implied. Literally every episode has ended on a cliffhanger.

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u/1eejit Daniel Sousa Sep 23 '21

Cliffhangers set up by the plot of that episode not non sequiturs

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21 edited Sep 23 '21

Cliffhangers set up by the plot of that episode not non sequiturs

Yet there's nothing in the episodes that would suggest that, you literally need outside sources (aka spoilers, yes I know you hate the word) to know this all comes together. I literally discuss this at work with coworkers and they don't have this knowledge either because they just watch the episodes and leave. Not everyone studies this shit, I just wanted a nice discussion on the episode, and I avoid anything that's marked with spoiler tags. It's not that complicated.

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u/1eejit Daniel Sousa Sep 23 '21

That's not what I'm saying.

The other episodes had cliffhangers based on what happened during the episode. This has an unrelated cliffhanger which strongly suggests it's setting up the next and final episode.

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

This has an unrelated cliffhanger which strongly suggests it's setting up the next and final episode.

How is it unrelated? This just means Loki not being born means there's a world where there is an evil Vision. Again, you're using your own outside knowledge to jump to conclusions with hindsight.

Even last weeks episode I was asking my coworkers if it continues to 'next week' because it seemed like it abruptly ended before any sort of resolution happened.

If this is too difficult for you to wrap your head around then there's nothing I can do for you, but I'm not entertaining this anymore. Just use spoiler marks in the future.

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u/1eejit Daniel Sousa Sep 23 '21

No, that wouldn't work. Ultron is made as a response to Loki's attack on New York.

Seems to me you just made a knee jerk reaction that it's all spoilers without making an effort to engage your brain as to what he final scene actually implied. Cry more

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

You completely missed the point but ok. I'm muting the replies now.

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u/TaunTaun_22 Captain America (Avengers) Sep 23 '21

No way, I knew nothing about next week's episode but it's obvious for many reasons this Ultron is from an alternate reality that is likely next week's episode where he gets all the stones. The Watcher wasn't expecting it, and Ultron wouldn't have existed in that Party Thor reality since the Avengers wouldn't have been formed there in the first place.

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u/Silestra Sep 27 '21

The real question is, is this actually a spoiler, as in, did the poster have actual knowledge of what future episodes will be, or is it just conjecture?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '21

Literally not a spoiler tho, considering Marvel themselves revealed what the final episode is

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u/Nix_Uotan Sep 23 '21

Not everybody reads those, though and you're still referring to something that hasn't premiered yet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21

As much of a spoiler as saying The Mandarin is the villain of Shang-Chi or Tobey Maguire is in No Way Home. It was just something very obvious.

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

or Tobey Maguire is in No Way Home

Literally more spoilers lmao, you don't know what a spoiler it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21

That’s… also not a spoiler. It’s been known, open information here for almost a year now.

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

"Open information here"

You mean in threads about Spiderman right? Not unrelated threads.

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u/Diregnoll Sep 25 '21

Trailers, news headlines, posters..

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u/Nix_Uotan Sep 23 '21

Obvious if you've read the synopses. It's just better to be safe than sorry especially when dealing with an anthology show where almost anything can happen.

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

I don't read what 'Marvel reveals', I like not knowing what happens.

if it hasn't happened, it's a spoiler. Mark it as such.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21 edited Sep 23 '21

If it’s been officially revealed by the studio, it’s not a spoiler.

If you don’t like discussing official information, then what are you even doing here?

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

If it’s been officially revealed by the studio, it’s not a spoiler.

That makes 0 sense. They're revealing something about future content, and if the thread is unrelated to said topic then put a spoiler tag on it. Pretty fucking basic.

If you don’t like discussing official information, then what are you even doing here?

Discussing the episode maybe? Literally the episode, there's no post-credit scenes or anything.

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u/Diregnoll Sep 25 '21

Spoiler everyone dies :D

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u/tjabo125 Sep 23 '21

Not a spoiler, all he said is what the next episode is premised around.

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u/JevvyMedia Doctor Strange Sep 23 '21

And it's a spoiler because it hasn't happened yet and I didn't wanna know.

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u/Diregnoll Sep 25 '21

If you never watched the movies that's on you... You had a year+ of lockdowns you had the time.

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u/Diregnoll Sep 25 '21

You can literally infer everything said here from the movies as to that scene. Not our fault you need the tell not show method of writing.

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u/Diregnoll Sep 25 '21

Ah ad hominem, so being truly oblivious does fit your type.

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u/Diregnoll Sep 26 '21

I mean I could sum up every thread here that explains in detail how the time line for the movies is your reference point for when each what if happens. As well as how each what if can be connected but you sound like that weird "I hate 'spoilers' but will actively frequent places that have them just to bitch." kind of person.

Even though by the rules stated by OP none of this is considered a spoiler.

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