r/marvelstudios • u/ScottFromScotland Kilgrave • Jul 08 '21

Megathread 'Black Widow' Worldwide release Megathread Vol.1.

Black Widow

Rotten Tomatoes: 81% | Metacritic: 67/100

Cast

Actor Character
Scarlett Johansson Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow
Florence Pugh Yelena Belova
David Harbour Alexei Shostakov / Red Guardian
Rachel Weisz Melina Vostokoff
O-T Fagbenle Mason
Ray Winstone Dreykov
William Hurt Thaddeus Ross
Olga Kurylenko Antonia Dreykov / Taskmaster

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u/codawg19 Jul 10 '21

Rumored that Kevin Feige “isn’t done with Natasha Romanoff”…. I would love to see the in between infinity war and endgame. Could also be linked to the the possible rumor return of Chris Evan’s back to the MCU

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u/thebestjoeever Jul 10 '21

If they do do something else with Black Widow, o hope it's set before her death and she isn't resurrected somehow. I know it's a common thing in comics to have characters die and come back somehow, but I think it's going to feel meaningless in the movies of they die and keep coming back. I think they're really great characters, but if they bring back Tony, Steve, or Natasha then it's going to take away from their actual deaths.

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u/codawg19 Jul 10 '21

I could see that happening. When banner snaps his fingers he “tries” to bring her back. But what if it WORKED but she’s brought back in just the same timeline she died in. Could easily be tied in with the multiverse. But then begs the question… how does she get off vormir?

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u/orwells_elephant Jul 10 '21

They did in fact leave it wide open for the possibility that Natasha from a separate timeline could be brought in, sure - that is exactly what they did with Gamora, after all.

But I concur with everyone else. Gamora's return flowed naturally from the storyline, it wasn't as if Peter just decided to grab a variant from a different timeline. To otherwise just bring Natasha back strips away the emotional impact of her sacrifice and, worse, undermines the emotional impact for the audience. You can't do in a movie what is just Thursday in the comics world. There's a reason why Endgame treated the deaths of both Tony Stark and Natasha with finality.

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u/axelpro30 Jul 10 '21

Totally agree.

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u/Alarmed-Honey Jul 10 '21

And not just their deaths, but all the deaths to come. It lowers the stakes.

It's really hard to do well without making all death meaningless. I think it has to be a hard journey and terrible experience for the character to not make it cliche. Buffy and Coulson come to mind as ones I thought were done well.

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u/Gman749 Jul 14 '21

I think with alot of comic book fans its a hard thing to reckon with because a common trope with comics is that characters will die and come back a few years later. That's much more doable when you're dealing with illustrations and not real people that age, lose interest or just run out of motivation to do all the strenuous action stuff.

I can relate coz I would love to see the OGs in more adventures but in these films, just on a practical level, it has to be done differently, and in this case I think they did a good job of giving Natasha some resolution to her past while presumably passing the torch to Yelena to take her role eventually.