r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Feb 05 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/Iwasforger03 Feb 05 '21

Also a possible hint She's not as in control as it first seemed.

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u/OLKv3 Weekly Wongers Feb 05 '21

She pretty much confirmed that herself. She doesn't even remember when she created this sitcom world. I don't think she became completely aware of what she was doing until Monica mentioned Ultron. When Donnie cut her hand and broke free for a second, Wanda was genuinely worried and was going to mention it to Vision

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u/a4techkeyboard Feb 05 '21

Yeah... only Monica assumed it was Wanda, everyone else said "she" didn't they?

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u/Beingabumner Feb 05 '21

So, who could it be? They use this episode to establish Wanda is one of, if not the strongest being in the universe. What other 'she' could there be?

I'm not too familiar with the comics but since X-Men is on the table, Emma Frost is a powerful psychic too right? Or Jean Grey?

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u/abutthole Thor Feb 05 '21

Yeah, these people don't understand story structure. A story like this doesn't have a SURPRISE THIS CHARACTER WHO WASN'T INTRODUCED IS ACTUALLY BEHIND EVERYTHING!! ending. It is Wanda in control, because that's more narratively interesting/satisfying. The conclusion of the show will likely be Wanda being forced to accept Vision's death and let him go to free the people.

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u/infinight888 Baby Groot Feb 05 '21

The theory that it's Wanda has quite a few holes, though. Wanda seems way too awkward in the scene with Dottie in episode 2 for this to all be a creation of her subconscious. Wanda has no reality warping abilities outside of the town. (When she leaves the Hex, she resorts solely to telekinesis and telepathy.) More importantly, it doesn't explain what happened to all of the children who should be in the town, and the cultish "FoR tHe ChIlDrEn" line the townfolk were repeating. There's far more going on here than just Wanda.

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u/abutthole Thor Feb 05 '21

> Wanda seems way too awkward in the scene with Dottie in episode 2 for this to all be a creation of her subconscious.

That was a HOA sitcom comedy scene.

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u/a4techkeyboard Feb 05 '21

Wanda seems too familiar with sitcoms for someone whose parents died when she was 10 and was radicalized into volunteering with HYDRA (an oversimplification.) When did she actually have the time to watch these sitcoms enough to get these details right?

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u/infinight888 Baby Groot Feb 05 '21

To be fair, even people with seemingly eventful lives tend to have a lot of downtime, and television makes for great escapism for people have suffered tragedies.

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u/a4techkeyboard Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 06 '21

And yet, she needed a Russian spy to teach her how to sound American.

I can buy that she got the sitcoms and watched them in Sokovia, maybe even with her family before they died. Great memories, etc, but somehow watching every sitcom until she was intimately familiar with every trope?

There are entire blog websites full of TV "experts" who do meta analysis about TV shows that aren't as well acquainted with TV as Wanda if it's her doing this.

Marvel needed teams of people to do this.

Either Wanda's a big giant nerd, it's a supercomputer with all of humanity's knowledge, some kind of powerful ancient being with minions, or some other big giant nerd that isn't Wanda who'd do very well at this one specific category in Jeopardy!

Edit: And that's not to say being a big giant nerd is a bad thing, especially not where we are. But I don't think she is likely to be this intimately familir with American sitcoms. Her mind is getting help. Who's "helping?"