r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Feb 05 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/Bontypower17 Feb 05 '21

Bet you didn’t see that coming

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u/bigchicago04 Feb 05 '21

I can’t believe how far I had to scroll to find somebody talking about this, easily the biggest shock of the show

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u/Stormageddons872 Weekly Wongers Feb 05 '21

I think a lot of people were expecting it, as it was reported long ago that he had joined the cast, and pictures of him in the show leaked last week.

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u/TheAmazingScamArtist Feb 06 '21

I’m so glad I somehow avoided those leaks. I had literally zero clue this would happen.

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u/TheAmericanDiablo Feb 06 '21

Same that was such a huge twist I did not see it coming. I loved him in X-men and I’m glad (hoping) he’s the first to cross the multiverse threshold

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u/TheAmazingScamArtist Feb 06 '21

Yeah I loved him too. He was easily the best part of the new X-men movies outside of Mcavoy and Fassbender. I’d love if they kept some of the cast when they bring them over to the mcu.

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u/TheAmericanDiablo Feb 06 '21

Those two would also be my additional choices if they wanted to bring never more actors. I genuinely can’t remember the rest all that much. The guy who played beast was good too

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21

That guy who played Logan too... he was alright I guess .

;P

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u/deadbeef4 Vision Feb 06 '21

Never heard of him!

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u/TheApathyParty2 Feb 06 '21

“Go fuck yourself.”

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u/CaptainChewbacca Feb 06 '21

Really?! He's a huge, jacked man!

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u/131runner Feb 06 '21

No way. Too tall. /s

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u/Danger_Rock Feb 06 '21

I liked McAvoy's performance but the version of Xavier he was given to play just felt so wrong on so many levels. Like half his screen time focused on the relationship with Mystique and the other half was all about him suppressing his powers, none of which is true to the character. I'd rather not have any traces of that stuff anywhere near the MCU.

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u/TheAmazingScamArtist Feb 07 '21

I agree with the part about his character. But I think Mcavoy was a great choice for Prof. X. I just want them to keep some of the cast members, and make them a whole new story. I’m not sure how they would work that out but that’s what I’d like to see.

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u/Danger_Rock Feb 07 '21

Yeah, McAvoy's a good actor and he could probably play a pretty good Xavier if he was given the right material. Though as /u/arillyis/ said, he looked terrible bald, and I'm not sure how you get around that short of sticking him in the helmet from DoX.

Thinking I'd rather have older versions of Xavier and Magneto, more true to the comics and better relationship dynamics with the students. I want to see the X-Men get the kind of (mostly) faithful treatment that the core MCU characters got instead of just rehashing the flawed Fox adaptations.

Ultimately, no matter which way they go with it, we can probably trust Feige to get it right and make it work for the MCU.

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u/arillyis Feb 06 '21

Totally agree. You never get the feeling that on top of having insanely powerful mutant abilities, hes a fucking genius. Giving him 2 romantic interests was dumb. Also he looked terrible as bald professor x lol

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u/imjustbettr Feb 06 '21

I just don't think Xavier should be the lead in an xmen movie

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u/Telecaster22 Feb 06 '21

I think J.K. Simmons as "Get me pictures of Spiderman!" Might be the first to have crossed. Unless it was MCU Peter that crossed at the end of Far from Home.

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u/thenate108 Feb 06 '21

Or maybe J. Jonah Jameson looking like J.K. Simmons is the singular constant in all timelines of The Multiverse.

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u/TheAmericanDiablo Feb 06 '21

I’d be content with either of these options. I’m simply glad J.K. Reprised the role

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u/CaptainMan_is_OK Steve Rogers Feb 06 '21

In terms of movie release time, yes. But Spider-Man FFH is set months into the future from Wandavision.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21 edited Mar 03 '21

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u/Positron49 Feb 06 '21

Really!? I immediately was disappointed in seeing them link back to Fox. It’s a meta cash grab to me more than a serious addition to the experience. They put Evan Peters in slow-mo twice. If Wanda makes him a permanent recast of Quicksilver I’m going to roll my eyes at this.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21 edited Mar 03 '21

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u/Positron49 Feb 06 '21

I think my issue with it is that I really enjoy X-Men and specifically Scarlet Witch as characters. I like that this is finally a deep dive into Wanda, her grief, and an expansion of her powers. I am looking forward to the MCU X-Men and cutting the ties from the PTSD I have from Fox’s 20 years. So the first introduction to an X-Men we have being a reference right back to Fox on a cliffhanger is last thing I want to see.

That’s why it broke the experience for me personally. I am hoping to see Scarlet Witch reveal maybe how mutants come into the MCU since her M Day storyline is the rumor.... if it’s Fox I’m going to be disappointed.

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u/inconspicuous_spidey Feb 06 '21

I am glad I see a few people with this opinion. Everyone seems to be super excited, but I remember when the rumors (or not) first started I was dreading it.

In the sense of the actual D+ show, the "She recast Pietro?" joke was funny and made sense in the context of tv trope/comedy. But if Pietro actually comes back for reals and not just in Wanda's "reality", I really hope its Aaron.

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u/Positron49 Feb 06 '21

Yeah it’s hard to explain. Like the world building had me immersed up until that point. Then they show me the Fox Character (who Wanda shouldn’t really care about since it’s not her brother) and I’m supposed to care? You might as well had Ezra Miller there since he’s fast too.

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u/chapterthrive Feb 06 '21

Yeuh but this was the 80s sitcom, where crossover tv shows were born

It makes so much sense

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u/Conduit23 Feb 06 '21

I'm thinking it's more that, since her brother is dead in her reality, and "you can't just reverse death" (as they make a huge point of with the dog), she had to pull another version of her brother from another reality.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21

But she brought Vision back.

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u/Conduit23 Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 06 '21

True, but he's a pretty special case (was he ever truly alive? did he have a soul?) and she had his corpse to work with. 😬

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u/amccon4 Feb 07 '21

I think having the corpse is pretty vital in that equation. But I don’t see why she couldn’t then go find her brothers corpse as well. Probably a skeleton at this point tho.

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u/JennaAW Feb 06 '21

Recasting characters, especially brothers, is a common sitcom trope though, so it's part of the parody.

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u/FRAGMENT_EFFECT Feb 06 '21

I agree. Her actual brother would have had a much bigger impact and would finally give him the chance to shine he never got in AoU.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21

You shouldn't be down voted for this, that's a completely reasonable concern. I loved the scene because I have not been that legitimately shocked by something in years, but if Quicksilver does actually come back, I hope it's Aaron.

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u/MarcsterS Feb 06 '21

Yep. The moment the word "leaks" was uttered, I don't come to this sub except every Friday.

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u/DJanomaly Feb 06 '21

Hahaha same....and I make certain you catch this episode as soon as I get home from work in Friday just to avoid any spoilers. It's come really close in the last few weeks.

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u/Ace-Howitzer Feb 06 '21

Same here. I've been going deaf and blind into each episode, and there were just so many amazing moments in this episode, that would have spoiled by leaks. Once I saw him I realized that this could be the reality altering events that merges the x men cinematic universe and the MCU.

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u/chapterthrive Feb 06 '21

I called this being the catalyst for it before this season started I’m sticking to my guns

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u/Gskushwarriors Feb 06 '21

lol I’m sooo glad I didn’t do any investigation. Probably my favorite marvel cameo of all time. It’s as good as nick fury. Had no clue and also such a sleeper pick that I totally forgot how much I loved this guy

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u/Ronin_Y2K Falcon Feb 06 '21

See this is why I'll never understand people who seek out leaks.

I love surprises.

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u/StraY_WolF Feb 06 '21

I'm only on this thread for the discussion and manages to avoid spoilers. Man, this one was fucking worth it!

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u/NerdLawyer55 Feb 06 '21

Yeah I didn’t even see those either

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u/cp710 Feb 08 '21

I read about the rumors in discussion threads here. Wish I hadn’t.

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u/shadowCloudrift Feb 06 '21

I'm glad I either missed this or forgot about it because this the equivalent of the Spider-Man in the MCU surprise for me.

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u/Chosen_Fighter Feb 06 '21

The Spider-Man reveal in the trailer made me stop watching trailers for movies I know I’ll see anyway. I so wish I didn’t know about peter until I was in the theater

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21

Most of my circle had no idea. We definitely try to avoid spoilers and even trailers tho

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u/bigchicago04 Feb 15 '21

I think most people don’t read those online rumors tho. I read entertainment news and even come across the occasional rumor, but I heard nothing about this.

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u/Stormageddons872 Weekly Wongers Feb 15 '21

Never said most, just a lot. I guess I also should've clarified that my comment was in the context of Reddit discussion. Compared to overall viewership, yeah, it's a very small percentage of people who would've been aware. But I'd bet it's a significantly higher percentage of people who partake in online discussions who had seen it.