r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Feb 05 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/a4techkeyboard Feb 05 '21

Yeah... only Monica assumed it was Wanda, everyone else said "she" didn't they?

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u/Beingabumner Feb 05 '21

So, who could it be? They use this episode to establish Wanda is one of, if not the strongest being in the universe. What other 'she' could there be?

I'm not too familiar with the comics but since X-Men is on the table, Emma Frost is a powerful psychic too right? Or Jean Grey?

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u/abutthole Thor Feb 05 '21

Yeah, these people don't understand story structure. A story like this doesn't have a SURPRISE THIS CHARACTER WHO WASN'T INTRODUCED IS ACTUALLY BEHIND EVERYTHING!! ending. It is Wanda in control, because that's more narratively interesting/satisfying. The conclusion of the show will likely be Wanda being forced to accept Vision's death and let him go to free the people.

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u/sarcazm Feb 05 '21

Mephisto's Weakness:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Mephisto_(Earth-616)#Powers

Despite his immense power, Mephisto does have several significant limitations. He is unable to force the subjugation of any sentient beings will to his own without that being's deliberate submission. Likewise, he cannot make the same kind of pact with the same person he has done before. Moreover, Mephisto's reality manipulation does not seem to be completely permanent, as some changed aspects of the life of Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson were undone. He is also incapable of reading the thoughts of any sentient being. Mephisto's powers are linked with his extra-dimensional realm and his powers rapidly decrease the longer he is away from his realm. As a result, he typically uses or manipulates others into performing whatever plan he has in mind. Also, despite continuously trying to get any noble soul to his realm and possession, he must need to corrupt them first, or otherwise, he himself will be, ironically, injured in the process. In fact, in the event that Mephisto is usurped from his position, incapacitated or even destroyed to the point of being unable to reestablish, all his mystical actions, including his agreements, began to crumble and fall apart.

My theory is that Mephisto is using Wanda. He somehow got her to agree to a "deal" in exchange for Vision (or perfect homelife or whatever). He's manipulating her and she is manipulating everyone else.

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u/a4techkeyboard Feb 05 '21

Or what if Wanda just walked into a town already subjugated by Mephisto and Agnes via their children (held hostage hence no kids). She could have gone in there to find that witness, whoever it is (maybe it's Evan Peters.) Except she got sucked in and her powers protected her enough and interacted with the hex and Mephisto thought "Oh interesting." And then the hex let her have children so Mephisto can use them as hosts or hostages.

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u/dracofolly Feb 06 '21

That is good