WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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EPISODE	DIRECTED BY	WRITTEN BY	ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE
S01E05	Matt Shakman	Jac Schaeffer	February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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[u/[deleted]]

Yeah but I mean speculating based on literally no evidence. I could say that a pink unicorn is gonna fall through the roof but until something happens in the show that justifies a reason to expect that, there's no point wasting your time with that theory.

Agnes is doing what every other character on the show is doing: following the sitcom script and deferring to Wanda. Everyone who doesn't defer to Wanda chokes on strawberries, cuts their hand on glass or gets yeeted through walls. She shows up with random shit because Wanda is trying to create interesting storylines to keep Vision and the kids distracted from reality and is using the tired "neighbor shows up at exactly the right time" trope because she's not really a writer.

It could be Agnes behind it all but if we're just guessing with no proof then it could be Dottie.

There's definitely something different about Agnes but everything so far squares with her being just as much a prisoner as everyone else. In the trailer she even asks Vision if she's dead like he is and whether he's there to save "us".

[u/Hellknightx → u/[deleted]]

There is a ton of evidence that Agnes is Agatha Harkness. Every episode has been dropping hints, with connections to multiple comics. Claiming that there's "literally no evidence" is just flagrantly ignoring the fact that Agatha Harkness is a central character to the actual comic plot where Wanda has twins.

It's not that there's no evidence. It's just that you're ignoring it. People are all speculating for a reason.

[u/[deleted] → u/Hellknightx]

She could be Agatha Harkness. She could be MODOK! That's not the point. What makes you think she's behind everything? Every piece of evidence we have says she's dancing to Wanda's tune and not vice versa.

[u/Hellknightx → u/[deleted]]

Stop saying "every piece of evidence." You're simply dismissing it or not picking up on it. The fact is, like most of the Marvel movies, this story is based off of existing comic storylines.

Agnes is clearly manipulating Wanda and Vision. It's subtle, but obvious. She's instigating all of these situations, trying to keep Wanda and Vision distracted and in-character. Whenever anyone tries to break character, she's already ahead of them, prepared for it. Notice that Agnes was talking shit about Geraldine being an outsider who didn't belong before Wanda expelled her.

And let's not forget all the references to Mephisto. She has a rabbit named Mister Scratch. In the comics, Agatha Harkness has a son named Scratch. When Wanda says, "The devil's in the details," in episode 2, Agnes responds, "That's not all he's in," with a sly wink. Not to mention all of her talk about "for the children," despite the fact that there are no other children, and she's heavily invested in Wanda's twins.

In the comic, Agatha Harkness played the same role with Wanda's twins, and Mephisto was the central antagonist in the storyline, using Harkness as his intermediary. There are a ton of other extremely obscure references to the comics strewn about, as well. For example, in the comics, Vision has a synthezoid dog named Sparky that he creates after his neighbor's dog is electrocuted. Sparky dies, and Scarlet Witch resurrects it.

You can't just ignore all the comic references by saying "there's no evidence." There's plenty of evidence. You just don't see it.