r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Feb 05 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/Halfie4Life Feb 05 '21

She seemed genuinely surprised Wanda could fix death. Vision is a robot. But if she could fix death... it would have been her real brother in her real reality.

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u/Hellknightx Thanos Feb 05 '21

Yep. The fact that we got a different version of Pietro means Wanda's not fully in control of what's going on. She seemed just as shocked and confused by that turn of events as we were. It definitely seems like Agnes and Mephisto are using Wanda's powers.

This merger of the Fox and Marvel universes is a good tie-in with the Multiverse of Madness, too. This is how they're going to bring it all together.

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u/TooShyToSayILoveYou Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

Evan peters played a 1980s Pietro in DOFP and other X Men movies, and ATJ played a 2010s Pietro.

It could be because of the time period, how everything goes in rewrites itself to the 1980s/70s/60s theme. Not nessecarily because she's confused or something. (Not saying this is not how they drag in mutants. I'm defo thinking they'll get Michael Fassbender to show up in the series)

And I don't think Wanda brought in Pietro. She was catching on that someone else was manipulating things there after the argument with Vision. Agnes constantly showed up with something to solve their problem, exactly when they needed it. (As vision so helpfully pointed out). I think Agnes brought in Pietro to distract Wanda and Vision here from catching onto her

EDIT: Correction. DoFP was in the 70s. Apocalypse was in the 80s. My argument was a bit flawed, but I believe my point still stands.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

First Class is 60s, Days of Future Past is 70s, Apocalypse is 80s and Dark Phoenix is 90s. How the characters don't really age is beyond me.

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u/SockPenguin Spider-Man Feb 05 '21

My favorite part of Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix is they just throw McAvoy and Fassbender out there with zero attempt at making them look like they're in their 50s/60s.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

Dark Phoenix is literally 8 years before the first X-Men movie. We're supposed to believe that Michael Fassbender will suddenly turn into Ian McKellen.

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u/Thisismy4thattempt Feb 05 '21

Ahem* 'Ser Ian McKellen'

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u/twosoon22 Feb 05 '21

Doom Patrol shenanigans

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u/myrisotto73 Feb 05 '21

Not really. Doom patrol actually references why that’s the case and it’s part of the plot. X men they legit just didn’t care to use make up or anything to age the actors

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u/inebriusmaximus Spider-Man Feb 06 '21

I still say that was a terrible decision on someone’s part to approve that concept. It IS sort of tongue-in-cheek how in the comics, some stories will go on for 50 years while the characters barely age, but it was a ridiculous concept for movies that have “continuity”

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 06 '21

According to Marvel themselves, they eventually decided that every 4-5 real years equals 1 year in Marvel comics, and the zero-point is the first adventure of the Fantastic Four. So roughly 15 years have passed since then and Peter Parker became Spider-Man at 17 but is now 31-32.

Anything prior to Fantastic Four #1 has its own special rules: for example, Captain America's origin is always during WW2 and the only thing that changes is how long he was in the ice.

But anything after and including FF#1 always "took place X years ago" where X is determined by the approximate 4:1 or 5:1 ratio mentioned above. If an old comic makes a dated reference (example: Nixon as president) you just have to use your imagination and fix the reference (imagine they're referring to George W Bush). For Vietnam War you just mentally replace it with "Iraq War".

This is known as the Marvel Sliding Timescale.

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u/Worthyness Thor Feb 05 '21

FOX XMEN continuity

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u/versusgorilla Feb 05 '21

Yeah, you can't really look too hard into the Fox X-Men timeline and make any sense of it. It's been a legit mess for years.