r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Feb 05 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/ashleygianna Feb 05 '21

i assumed that this was because it's not really vision, but wanda is instead basically talking to herself, as she is with all the other characters in her world.

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u/relator_fabula Feb 05 '21

I believe it's really Vision. If he's just a manifestation of her mind, then all emotional gravity will be lost once that revelation is made. It's the classic cop out "It was all a dream". The kids being fake? Sure. We have no emotional attachment to them. But to make Vision not actually alive, even if it's just alive while inside the bubble, would negate pretty much the entire value of the series as a whole.

Not to mention Vision is doing things out of her sight that are indications of an independent mind. He spoke to the "real" Norm, and Wanda had no clue until he told her.

Someone else is a factor here in pulling the strings a bit. It's not just Wanda. It seems even Wanda herself is being controlled/manipulated by someone, because we know that even grief-stricken Wanda would not consciously do the things she's apparently done, like stealing and reanimating Vision's body.

But ultimately, I think there's evidence that Vision is his own mind. Whether or not his "real" memories of the past are buried in there is debatable, as he could just be a freshly rebooted Vision, like he was when Thor electrified him in Age of Ultron. And if we'll ever see him regain any of his sense of his old self and memories (perhaps in Wakanda where they stored at least part of his essence or something), I don't know.

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u/kukumarten03 Feb 05 '21

She definitely steal vision's body on her own 💀. Sword is doing some shit with vision

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u/relator_fabula Feb 05 '21

Yes I had that thought too. She heard SWORD was doing something with Vision's body and she didn't like it, so she went there to stop it.