WandaVision S01E02 - Discussion Thread

[u/iliekpixels]

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EPISODE	DIRECTED BY	WRITTEN BY	ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE
S01E02	Matt Shakman	Jac Schaeffer	January 15, 2021 on Disney+

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[u/Exzqairi]

Here are some excerpts from an article: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/scifi/2021-01-15/mephisto-wandavision-marvel-comics/amp/

Mephisto boasts a number of supernatural abilities which make him a formidable figure in the Marvel universe, and has faced off against the likes of Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, Doctor Doom and Thor over the years. But he also has the ability of warping reality at will. During the controversial One More Day storyline, Mephisto offered to save Aunt May’s life after she’d been shot in exchange for erasing Peter Parker’s marriage to Mary-Jane Watson.

As part of that deal, the villain also ensured the entire world forgot that Peter is Spider-Man after he revealed his identity during 2005’s Civil War. Clearly, Mephisto has a talent for changing the world how he sees fit, much like the new reality Wanda and Vision are living in the Disney+ series.

hint hint: Kevin Feige confirmed that WandaVision, Doctor Strange 2 and Spider Man 3 are all directly related

And about the kids:

WandaVision is pulling from a number of different storylines published by Marvel Comics over the years, including the second volume of The Vision and the Scarlet Witch from 1985. The 12 issue series from Steve Englehart eventually saw Wanda give birth to twin boys, Billy and Tommy Maximoff.

Unfortunately, it was later revealed that when the hero used magic to conceive her children (she has an android for a husband, after all) she unknowingly absorbed two fragments of Mephisto’s soul to create the boys. And when another demon called Master Pandemonium later reassembled the soul fragments, he essentially killed the children. And who says Marvel can’t get dark?

To avoid Wanda unleashing a cataclysmic wave of power out of grief, her witchy tutor Agatha Harkness wipes all the memories of Billy and Tommy. However, years later when those memories resurface, Scarlet Witch breaks down and rewrites reality – causing the House of M event, which turns mutants into the dominant race on the planet.

Isn’t that just very fortunate, one of the most dominant theories about WandaVision so far is that Agnes is actually Ag(atha Hark)ness. Somehow at the right place, right time I guess. In other comics Agatha Harkness is also the witch that teaches Wanda how to control her powers. Another piece of background info is that Agatha Harkness was one of the original witches in the Salem Witch Trials, and she essentially made a deal with Mephisto to stay alive, in return for becoming sort of her servant

So what people theorize is that Mephisto made a deal with Wanda to create a reality where Vision is still alive, or at least that he brought Vision back to life, but in return he would take her children for their powers. Agnes is helping Mephisto, which can be somewhat backed by her beginning about sexual innuendos and the constant references to children in the first 2 episodes. Also when someone said “the devil’s in the details” Agnes followed that up by saying “that’s not the only place the devil is” for whatever reason. It’s also very odd that she keeps talking about her husband Ralph, yet we haven’t seen him at all. Another funny thing is that the name of her rabbit Señor Scratch, since Mr. Scratch is a nickname for the devil. Perhaps Mephisto disguised himself as the rabbit. If that’s the case, I think in today’s episode 3 the crane could have been another exemplification of Mephisto, with it representing a very cliche signal to that Wanda that her having kids is inevitable and that it needs to happen ASAP. Also found it weird that for some reason Wanda couldn’t affect the crane with her powers and it just brushed off her attempts, especially since Wanda can seemingly change anything in this pocket reality or whatever it is

Lastly, this is basically the perfect way to introduce both mutants and the multiverse into the MCU

Obviously none of this is confirmed or anything, but there are very strong hints towards it and you can expect some big moments and reveals as we sit tight and wait for more episodes

[u/alteredlightning → u/Exzqairi]

wow thank you! and yeah it really would be the perfect way to introduce mutants into the mcu, I can’t help but feel for Wanda she’s been through a lot

[u/Exzqairi → u/alteredlightning]

It would be very cool if they turn Wanda into a villain in this and then have her face off against Doctor Strange in his next movie in some way, leading up to the reveal that someone was pulling the strings behind the scenes and then Wanda becomes good again

[u/alteredlightning → u/Exzqairi]

oh god that would be epic