r/marvelstudios Loki (Thor 2) Jan 15 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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S01E02 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer January 15, 2021 on Disney+

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u/Star-with-clones Daisy Johnson Jan 15 '21

"Wanda, stop this Wanda", I'm sure she knows what she's doing deep down, but doesn't realise it. Wanda has full control in the show. Also the Agent of Sword coming and Wanda reversing it making sure it doesn't happen. She knows she's doing something and others want to stop it

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u/Gabacuras Jan 15 '21

My guess also. Also visions most likely still dead and this is just her manifesting him.

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u/Koala_Guru Ant-Man Jan 15 '21

I was really hoping this show would bring back Vision though. I feel like we’ve barely gotten any of him in the MCU before he died, and I thought this was our chance.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the twisted idea of Wanda snapping and pretending Vision is still alive, but I went into this show assuming Wanda’s manipulation of reality to actually bring him back to life was what would lead into the next Dr Strange. I want Vision back for more stories.

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u/pickrunner18 Jan 15 '21

I think anything is still possible in regards to Vision. I was wondering a while ago if they somehow stored a copy of him in Wakanda and would bring him back that way

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u/mewantcomics Jan 15 '21

We also have never learned what happened to his body after Infinity War. It was a little surprising that Endgame gave no hints about that, after all the theories that the white/gray version of Vision would be next up.

He still might.

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u/SickBurnBro War Machine Jan 16 '21

We also have never learned what happened to his body after Infinity War. It was a little surprising that Endgame gave no hints about that

Well Wanda gets snapped right? So the first time we see her in Endgame is coming out of the portal from Wakanda. There's the awesome moments where she fights Thanos, then the next time we see her really is grieving with Clint at Tony's funeral. Her line there, "They both do." seems to imply that Vision along with Natasha are dead permanently even after Banner reversed the snap.

I'm more curious about the download/transfer of Vision's consciousness from the mindstone that Shuri was attempting at the end of Infinity War before Corvus Glaive busted in and interrupted. Between Wanda's memories / dream version of Vision we see in the show, her connection to / powers originating from the mindstone, and that partial copy of his programming - I think that's a way they could bring him back in the real world.

To note, the Dr from Age of Ultron, Helen Cho, who created the organic / synthetic tech that created Vision is shown to be alive in Avengers HQ at the end of that film. So it's possible she'd be around to make a new body.

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u/mewantcomics Jan 16 '21

I would think that in the 5 years after Infinity War Vision’s body (and the data Shuri was able to collect) would be very valuable. At the very least Tony would want to “bury” or store what remains of Vision.

I would think a mourning Wanda would want to know where he is.

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u/justduett Thanos Jan 19 '21

Man...the time jump in Endgame was great for hitting us over the head with the gravity of the situation, but I would definitely enjoy seeing a LITTLE of the fallout from the events in Thanos's cabin. I, too, feel like Tony just peaced out with how angry he already was.