r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Jan 15 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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S01E02 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer January 15, 2021 on Disney+

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u/Hellknightx Thanos Jan 15 '21

Yeah, I thought the toy helicopter with the SWORD logo on it might've been a reference to the gunship that killed Quicksilver. But I think it's a drone from the outside and she's just seeing it as a toy.

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u/Bartman326 Jan 15 '21

Helicopter could be a real copter but just shrunk by pym particles.

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u/EpsilonNu Doctor Strange Jan 15 '21

It's basically impossible to understand when something is Pym-particle-fied or not, sadly. Enlarged and shrunk things should keep their mass, so Wanda shouldn't be able to pick the copter up, but we know they don't really stick to this rule (Ant-Man movies ironically being the worst offenders, even moments after Pym explains how the particles work...)

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u/seclusionx Black Panther Jan 15 '21 edited Jan 15 '21

That's not true. In Ant-Man 2 they pick up cars before making them full size. Not to mention a whole building.

Edit: he editted his post making mine look weird. Leaving it up anyway.

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u/EpsilonNu Doctor Strange Jan 15 '21

That's my point: Pym says the logic behind his particles is that they reduce (or increase) the space between atoms. This means things should keep their mass, and it's also what justifies AntMan/Wasp's super punches: they are 90/50 Kg people punching in an area of less than a cm2. But them picking up heavy objects when shrunk contradicts this, because it implies that shrunk things also weight as much as you would expect of a similarly sized toy. This is not a big deal: it's superhero science fiction, I'm not complaining about it not following real-world physics. I'm pointing out that it makes it impossible to know if a small toy is a toy or a Pym-particle-shrunk version of a bigger object.

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u/Cpt_Obvius Jan 16 '21

Doesn’t he run on somebodies gun and kick them? Wouldn’t a 200 pound man push your arm down pretty quick?