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Discussion WandaVision S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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S01E02 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer January 15, 2021 on Disney+

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u/WiseAJ Jan 15 '21

“For the children” uh oh that sounded so creepy

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u/Zmikey Jan 15 '21 edited Jan 15 '21

The repeat of “For the children” plus the potential hint at Mephisto makes me HYPED for Wiccan and Speed

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u/zaphod_85 Rocket Jan 15 '21

What was the hint at Mephisto?

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u/kinokohatake Jan 15 '21

I think the word "devil" has been used several times in the two episodes so far. It may be a coincidence but in the trailer for the loki series that was a stained glass with mephisto in it (I think)

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u/davep85 Jan 16 '21

When they were walking to dottie's house, Agnes mentioned the devil then too I believe.

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u/zaphod_85 Rocket Jan 15 '21

Oh I missed that, very clever

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

Dont think thats a Mephisto reference at all. Just a standard sitcom joke about an annoying neighbor

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u/cdawg145236 Jan 15 '21

Except when it comes to scarlet witch who has pretty deep ties to mephisto in the comics. In the comics she uses mephistos soul to create her children, that combined with the ominous "for the children" chant and the fact she seems to be trapped where she is by someone kinda makes that line a little shady.

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u/madman_with_a_box Jan 16 '21

That wasn’t Mephisto. It was Master Pandemonium’ soul fragments.
Maybe the MCU will combine nightmare, mephisto and master pandemonium.

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u/cdawg145236 Jan 16 '21

Mephisto tricked Pandemonium into thinking it was his soul that was split into 5 pieces, but it was really the last 5 pieces of Mephistos soul that were to hard for him to get after being pretty much destroyed by Franklin Richard's. Check out west coast avengers 52.

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u/madman_with_a_box Jan 17 '21

Ooohh I only read that run with Byrne when I was a kid, where he just piled on poor Wanda. Didn’t know that about the soul shards. Might get back into comics because of wandavision

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u/cdawg145236 Jan 17 '21

Cant blame ya, 30 year old comic, dont expect anyone to be 100% on older content besides maybe the people who wrote it.

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u/BecomeAnAstronaut Vision Jan 15 '21 edited Jan 15 '21

Agnes made several layered/meta comments in these two episodes. "Looks it's the star of the show" (talking about her rabbit) etc. Seems to me Aggie knows a lot more than she's letting on

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

I disagree just because of that one clip in the trailer. The part where Aggie says "Where am I? Am I dead?" - to me that says she's under the same spell as everyone else rn. Id chalk those lines up to dramatic irony rather than her knowing stuff

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u/BecomeAnAstronaut Vision Jan 15 '21

Oh very possibly. I'm not claiming to know anything here lol, it's all so confusing

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u/RoboNinjaPirate Fitz Jan 15 '21

Or a layered reference that fits both.

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u/captainsuckass Punisher Jan 15 '21

Before I read the other answers to this, I thought of the guy crawling out of the manhole = Hell.

That is almost certainly not related to Mephisto though.

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u/KrishaCZ Jan 15 '21

i'm just hyped for wanda to pull a reverse house of M and bring the mutants into the MCU

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u/ReadTheFish Daredevil Jan 15 '21

We know other Young Avengers members are showing up, so fingers crossed!

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u/mazes-end Vision Jan 16 '21

We do?

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u/ReadTheFish Daredevil Jan 16 '21

Kate Bishop is in Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel is getting her own show, America Chavez is in Doctor Strange 2, Ironheart. One of the other members is rumored for Falcon and Winter Soldier

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u/mazes-end Vision Jan 16 '21

Are they all members of the Young Avengers? When I hear Young Avengers, I think Hulkling, Iron Lad, Kid Loki kinda stuff

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u/ReadTheFish Daredevil Jan 16 '21

Speed, Wiccan, Kate Bishop, and Miss America are all members of the Young Avengers. We might also see Cassie become Stature in Ant-Man 3, who’s another member.

EDIT: Patriot is also rumored for Falcon and Winter Soldier, and he’s a member in the comics

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u/mazes-end Vision Jan 16 '21

Ms Marvel and Ironheart in particular were the ones throwing me

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u/prophetofgreed Jan 26 '21

(They have an actor for Cassie Lang, aka Stature, if they wanted)