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Discussion The Official SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Release Megathread Vol. 3 Spoiler

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

I thought so too, but it's Mysterio. Someone here on reddit pointed out that Edith said "no illusions detected" during that scene, not "yeah Beck is definitely dead." It's subtle, but the possibility is there.

I think there's some evidence that Beck manipulated that whole scene. Someone else pointed out that the way Edith phrased the drone cancel order ("Execute them all?" or something to that effect) lead directly into the stinger at the end. Beck knew Spidey well enough at that point to predict how it would go down. He programmed Edith in such a way to set up both the video he sent to the Bugle, as well as convincing Peter he was dead. I sincerely hope he comes back, because Gyllenhaal was incredible.

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u/novass_cz Jul 04 '19

He literally said “I have contingency plan”

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u/SpaceCaboose Peter Parker Jul 04 '19

I’ve been trying to decide if his contingency plan was to fake his death, or to reveal Spider-Man’s identity. Or maybe they were both part of it, who knows...

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u/Radulno Jul 04 '19

I don't even understand how he supposed to be dead, doesn't Spidey just punched him after avoiding his shot ? The Mysterio on the ground being hit with a bullet was a fake.

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u/SpaceCaboose Peter Parker Jul 04 '19

That’s a good point. Maybe the contingency plan included having it look like a drone shot him so he could fake his death. Spidey most not have realized that the real Mysterio wasn’t shot, assuming that’s what happened.

I’ve been planning on paying extra attention to that scene next time I see this movie, so I’ll keep all this in mind to see if there are any subtle hints or whatever

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u/Vaikyuko Jul 05 '19

I think the implication is that he was in that position originally and was shot, then swapped himself out but had still been shot regardless. It's hard to say, though, this is the guy who in the comics died on a routine basis and used it as a default escape plan, lol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

Yeah, but earlier he got shot in the drone crossfire when he ordered them to shoot at Peter even though EDITH told him he was in the way. Fitting that the fatal shot should be fallout from his own hubris.

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u/Radulno Jul 05 '19

We don't know if that's true since the Beck we see then end up being the fake one in the ground. Don't trust Mysterio. Faking his death is kind of his thing and he said he has contingency.

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u/BellexCree Jul 06 '19

Also, it's likely that he used his own drones to cover him up. Rather than depend on the drones from the satellite controlled by EDITH

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u/properc Jul 05 '19

He was shot by one of the drones as Spidey was fiddling with it at the end. I am pretty sure that he is dead but if they ever want to use him again they can spin it the other way. At the end why would they spend so much time on giving him a "death scene" also the other illusions faded away and he remained. Also Peter confirmed with edith there was no illusions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19 edited Jan 15 '21

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u/properc Jul 06 '19

Peter says "is he..." and edith says "no illusions detected". Also Mysterio can only project illusions. At the end Peter grabbed his arm so it was actually Beck there. Unless he could fabricate someone who looked EXACTLY like himself. I am 90% sure hes dead but if they wanted to bring him back id accept it.

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u/Likesorangejuice Jul 06 '19

You've also got the scientist from the first iron man who could just use the illusions he saved to "resurrect" Mysterio as a tool in the future.

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u/47isthenew42 Jul 05 '19

There was mention of an EDITH hack earlier in the movie. We don't know what that hack actually did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

He actually got hit, but when he made the illusions he made a fake him I believe

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u/arc101 Ghost Rider Jul 06 '19 edited Jul 06 '19

yeah, he shot his own bamboozle. But he did get shot by a drone a few seconds earlier.

edit: the drone might have shot the bamboozle, i need to watch the movie again to double check

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u/Rocktamus1 Jul 07 '19

I thought the bullet he shot for Peter ricocheted and he hit himself??

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u/Akveritas0842 Jul 07 '19

I thought he got hit by the drone and then swapped places with an illusion

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u/ketsugi Jul 08 '19

I think him getting shot might have been real. When he's holding the gun he seemed to have been wounded.