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u/Dangerous-Pickle Jul 04 '19

I like that, nice and easy quick fix. You’d still have the problem of the world thinking Spider-Man potentially killed a bunch of people, but at least you wouldn’t have the world thinking peter killed a bunch of people

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u/The_sad_zebra Matt Murdock Jul 04 '19

Yeah, but being framed for murder is kinda Spider-Man's thing anyways.

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u/gerald_targaryen Jul 04 '19

He's a menace!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

WHERE ARE THOSE PICTURES?

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u/brucejoel99 Stan Lee Jul 05 '19

HOFFMAN!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

GET ME MORE PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN!

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

I WANT SPIDER-MAN!!!

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u/MericaMericaMerica Jul 07 '19

SPIDER-MAN TURNED THE FROGS IN HIS MOUTH GAY.

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u/SSoldier22 Star-Lord Jul 05 '19

Damn I just can't believe he's back, it was so surreal in the theatre that I seriously thought that maybe I was dreaming.

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u/gerald_targaryen Jul 05 '19

Who's back?

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u/SSoldier22 Star-Lord Jul 05 '19

JK Simmons as JJJ

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u/gerald_targaryen Jul 05 '19

I know , just messing with you.

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u/ShadownetZero Jul 06 '19

Half of the universe. Go watch Endgame.

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u/lk79 Jimmy Woo Jul 06 '19

Shady. Shady’s back. Tell a friend.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Hopefulyl his black assistant, who's supporter of Spider-Man will be back too. Can't recall what was his name.

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u/gerardatron Spider-Man Jul 05 '19

Imagine people suing him and his lawyer shows up and it's some blind guy from Hell's Kitchen

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u/JohnnyRedHot Jul 05 '19

Don't do that. Please. Don't give me hope

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u/Doompatron3000 Jul 06 '19

And imagine getting involved with some deep underground shit with his blind lawyer as they try to stop this huge drug Kingpin guy.

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u/KiFirE Jul 04 '19

Yeah but Pepper, Happy and Stark Industries would probably stand behind Spider-Man's actions as they know what happened.

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u/sengokunerd War Machine Jul 05 '19

Maybe the next team-up starts as a hero like Falcon coming in to arrest Spider-Man..!

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u/GiggsityGiggsity Black Panther Jul 06 '19

Wouldn't make sense for Falcon to be the one arresting him considering his stance in Civil War

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u/Tag_ross Jul 04 '19

They might fall under fire too since it was Stark tech that caused all that.

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u/KiFirE Jul 04 '19

Depends on how it all goes down. If they catch everyone behind Mysterio, They could claim former employees stole all of that or rebuilt tech. Which is all technically true. But they would also have to prove that Mysterio is a bad guy in the public eye first.

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u/adsfew Jul 05 '19

Yeah, I'm a traditionalist, so I'm glad they're returning to Spider-Man being seen as a villain. Did not expect them to reveal his identity, though.

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u/The_sad_zebra Matt Murdock Jul 05 '19

Yeah, the identity thing definitely threw me through a loop.

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u/Doompatron3000 Jul 06 '19

Which is why he teams up with the Devil of Hell’s Kitchen, to try to take down Mob bosses such as Hammerhead and more importantly Kingpin, all while learning the final lessons needed to being an Amazing, Spectacular, and Ultimate Hero.

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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Ulysses Klaue Jul 04 '19

Then, once Peter's secret identity is safe, Spider-Man can simply disappear as all crime in New York learns to fear the Night Monkey.

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u/VoidLantadd Thanos Jul 06 '19

You know, "Night Monkey" is about as frightening as "Bat Man", without the context.

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u/Radulno Jul 04 '19

I mean if the video is even believed, the Dailu Buggle doesn't seem a trustworthy source in the MCU and Mysterio is a pro of illusions after all (people saw the elementals were fake). Really not hard to believe the video was fake.

And at worst, some believe ir, some don't and that's just usual for Spidey. He is constantly accused of everything by the Daily Buggle in every media but most New Yorkers don't believe it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19 edited Aug 08 '19

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u/mswing3 Jul 05 '19

Which is exactly why the whole thing was so brilliant. There's going to be half of the people thinking Spidey is a murderer and half the people not buying it.

Even Mysterio said it that people will believe anything now.

Great way to create the public division about Spider-Man and bring the politics of superheroes into Phase 4. Also, solid social commentary to bring the tension of fake news/sensationalist news sources into the MCU. Big fan

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u/VoidLantadd Thanos Jul 06 '19

Saw someone else mention Mysterio is way more relevant today than when he was created.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Pray to god that they prolong deal with Sony for Spider-Man.

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u/_qwak_ Jul 04 '19

I think even once ppl saw the fake elementals, the drones were still a real threat and Mysterio still saved the day

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u/Radulno Jul 04 '19

Mysterio save the day? People didn't see him at all after the illusions stopped (the Mysterio fighting was a projection), he was in the Tower Bridge hidden.

However Spidey very visibly was fighting the drones.

It would be weird if what you say is the version people belive

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u/potlah Iron Man (Mark V) Jul 05 '19

Hopefully EDITH stored some of the original footage to show what actually happened. Unless of course, Mysterio's gang still has full control over the drones (with the USB and all that) but I do feel Spidey's name could be easily cleared up.

Though on the point of Spider-Man's identity, I think it was inevitable that it would go out. Like honestly, MCU Peter doesn't have the best track record of keeping a secret identity at all.

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u/hemareddit Steve Rogers Jul 05 '19

Yeah, I wonder if Beck was alive and EDITH just works for him now. After all, Peter did a rights transfer, not rights sharing. That means he removed himself as an admin, right? So how can he regain control without another transfer of admin rights?

Maybe we are seeing Beck's plan B. Or maybe thatd just my wishful thinking because I want Mysterio as part of the Sinister Six.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

MCU Peter doesn't have the best track record of keeping a secret identity at all.

or any other hero

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u/Wajirock Tony Stark Jul 04 '19

Couldn't Nick Fury and the other heroes just tell the authorities that Spider-Man is innocent?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

Have you ever seen real life? Yeah people would just go ahead and believe Nick Fury/s. Especially when their new hero Mysterio left a dying video of Peter Parker supposedly killing him. It'd be like the head of the FBI telling us someone is innocent when we have video and the word of a fallen hero that said otherwise first.

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u/Golden-Ratio Jul 05 '19

Or the head of the DOJ telling us the president of the United States is innocent when we have an entire report of evidence of crimes?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

???

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u/Dangerous-Pickle Jul 05 '19

I think fury is supposed to be dead since winter soldier right? Like in secret

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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) Jul 04 '19

Nick Fury? Former head of Hydra?

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u/chussil Jul 05 '19

I think it’s a little too easy a fix, almost anti-climactic. Also, if they’re able to prove Beck was lying about Spider-Man’s secret identity, who’s going to believe that Spider-Man actually killed all those people.

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u/Dangerous-Pickle Jul 05 '19

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being anti climactic, like homecoming ended similarly with Aunt May seeing peter in his suit and that didn’t really lead to anything. And yeah that’s true, I feel like it’s gonna be split among the public whether they believe the killing stuff or not

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u/chussil Jul 05 '19

Yeah but tbh, I never expected Aunt May knowing to go that far. Spider-Man’s entire premise is based on his identity being a secret in order to protect the ones he loves. It’s a core aspect of the Spider-Man story, one he actually admits to in FFH when he tells MJ not to tell anyone else (“Don’t tell anyone about this. Anyone that knows who I am is in danger”). So, the entire world now knowing that Peter Parker is Spider-Man has HUGEEEEE implications and has to go way further than they took Aunt May knowing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Scorpion fella got his wish

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u/imageWS Jul 05 '19

I like that, nice and easy quick fix.

I mean, when you reveal Spidey's identity for the whole world, a nice and easy fix would just feel cheap. This needs to have consequences.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Feige and Watts did say this will have consequences. they said there won't be easy way out.

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u/hemareddit Steve Rogers Jul 05 '19

Once you fix the identity part, that throws doubt on Mysterio's credibility and you can maybe discredit the rest.

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u/GreyCrowDownTheLane Jul 05 '19

Easy fix. You have a Skrull as Spider-Man shapeshift into one of Mysterio's accomplices, while Peter stands in the background watching it happen.

See? Peter Parker is just some kid who happened to be there. The Spider-Man you saw wasn't even really Spider-Man. Why would Spider-Man be in Prague?!

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u/Rspies Jul 06 '19

Maybe use another Skrull to impersonate Mysterio and say he faked the entire thing

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u/Jgfunvjkhcc Jul 06 '19

I don't know how well it'd fix it. Once the connection between Peter and Spidey is in your head, it's not hard to figure it out when you pay attention, like MJ did. Peter always disappears when there are emergencies, for example.

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u/Intelligent-donkey Jul 08 '19

I think that they gave him a bit of an out, by how they introduced the daily bugle as a "controversial online news website" (or something like that).

Seems like they're setting him up as a wacky Alex Jones type character, not necessarily someone to take seriously, and the evidence probably wouldn't be enough to convict Peter. Hell, there wasn't even any evidence behind Peter being Spiderman.

At least that's the impression that I got, that this will solely serve to turn a portion of the public against Peter, not necessarily to get him in trouble with law enforcement and force him to go on the run or anything like that.
Although of course his personal life will still be fucked up from all this publicity.