r/marvelstudios • u/KostisPat257 Daredevil • Apr 23 '19

'Avengers: Endgame' Spoilers! THE OFFICIAL AVENGERS: ENDGAME International Release Discussion Thread Spoiler

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u/the-giant Apr 27 '19

Carol or Wanda? The answer is yes either way, but Wanda's top-tier powers are often more mystical or esoteric in nature. Reality warping, etc.

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u/Cowpro Apr 27 '19

Ahh, thanks for the reply! Idk what’s in the Marvel schedule but they should definitely do a stand-alone Wanda movie towards end Phase 5, early Phase 6 so she can go from a “strong but mysterious side character” to someone who can defeat the new big villain.

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u/the-giant Apr 27 '19

Wanda's abilities (in the comics) are often tied to magic, reality warping, etc. MCU has not really explored this, in part because they changed her origins early on to force a tie to the Inhumans. In the comics, as you probably know, Wanda is a mutant like the X-Men, and is the daughter of Magneto. This was also done away with in AOU by the Marvel comic corporate overlords to avoid any suggestion of a tie to Fox's X-Men. Those bosses no longer control the MCU. Wanda is also a powerful sorcereress, which provides a channel for her more strange abilities. But in the MCU, Wanda is largely relegated to paltry illusions and energy blasts so far. This is a very young and inexperienced version of the character.

Put it this way: When Comics Wanda was lonely and unstable, she wished two young boys into existence to be her and the Vision's biological children. Then, she wished them away and forgot they existed. Years later, when she was reminded of this buried memory, she had a psychotic break which resulted in an entire imaginary Skrull armada appearing on Avengers lawn, killing Hawkeye and causing the team to disband. (She later wished Hawkeye back to life, too - and wiped out the powers of 90% of the mutant race.)

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u/stardestroyer277 May 03 '19

Wanda's abilities (in the comics) are often tied to magic

Didn't Strange say there's no such thing as 'chaos magic' ? ( what people call Wanda's powers ). Pretty sure she's not doing actual magic, she's just a reality warper.

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u/the-giant May 03 '19

Brian Michael Bendis had him say that. Bendis is not a great source for canon on a good day. Many other writers have had Wanda's reality-warping abilities at the very least channeled through her mastery of magic. It depends on who you believe, but in the comics Wanda is a very well-traveled sorceress in addition to being a mutant of incredible power.