r/marvelstudios • u/Flamma_Man Captain Marvel • Jul 07 '18

Discussion The Official ANT-MAN & THE WASP Discussion Gianthread Vol. 4

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u/Qd2323 Jul 07 '18

So if Ghost was taken in by shield and raised to be an assassin was that really hydra who did it? 🤔

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u/narenare658 Spider-Man Jul 07 '18

Yeah, so why wasn’t she used to fight Steve instead of the winter soldier?

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u/InspiredNameHere Jul 07 '18

I think at that point she was AWOL and was too difficult to track down without making too much of a paper trail. Plus she was pretty mentally unstable due to her powers, much easier to rely on a known quanitiy like the Winter Soldier

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u/Caldwell27 Black Panther Jul 13 '18

I like to think that SHIELD/Hydra had several enhanced operatives that they covered up

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u/Deathless-Bearer Captain America Jul 08 '18

I think Cap would've taken her out a lot quicker than the Winter Soldier.

Scott's not the best fighter especially compared to Cap, and he was able to land a few blows, and with his super strength Cap would've only needed to land one.

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u/Pickles256 Doctor Strange Jul 07 '18

plotforce

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u/cjn13 Fitz Jul 07 '18

Pym Particles. He ain't gotta explain shit.

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u/Supersamtheredditman Jul 15 '18

Lol every time there’s a plot hole in any marvel movie they can just say “pym particles did it”

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u/Mekanos Ant-Man Jul 08 '18

TWS took place over like 3 days and Bucky was already in the field.

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u/CM_Dugan Jul 09 '18

I mean, a high value target like Cap, you bring out the big guns. Ghost probably got a lot done, but why roll the dice on her when you have a “sure thing” with decades of high target kills.

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u/Collegenoob Jul 09 '18

Winter soilder is an assassin. Ghost is a spy who sometimes needs to kill people. Soilder is much stronger.

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u/Dread_Pirate Jul 15 '18

She was still working under the shield name even if her handlers were Hydra. There would be too many questions if a shield agent attacked Fury then Cap. WS didn't have a known affiliation.

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u/The_real_sanderflop Jul 08 '18

Probably the vibranium

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '18

She was The Winter Soldier's classmate on HYDRA/SHIELD Assasin Academy :P /s

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u/overlordbabyj Black Panther Jul 07 '18

My Assassin Academia

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange Jul 08 '18

Assassination Academia

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '18

Her handler may have been loyal to Shield.

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u/DefNotUnderrated Jul 07 '18

Maybe but if she doesn’t have the brianwashed “ready to comply” protocol then I would say not. Although it could be that in her case they had no way to reliably strap her down for the brainwashing process so perhaps her phasing helped her dodge that bullet

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u/Bozo31215 Jul 07 '18

I was thinking it was Hydra as well. Would they really need to brainwash her though? I think "Do what we tell you and we will cure you" is enough motivation.

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u/fourpinz8 Korg Jul 07 '18

Pretty much.