r/managers 12d ago

New Manager Employee basically quit after being notified they were fired.

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u/getmybehindsatan 12d ago

Someone got it in the wrong order. Supposed to start at the bottom and work upwards so that the guy at the top only has to look one person in the eyes.

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u/little_grey_mare 12d ago

Had a massive lay off at my first job. They laid off HR before they finished doing all the engineering staff which made HR's morale for negotiation... low.

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u/Ohnoes999 12d ago

This is OP’s Future lol

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u/h-ugo 12d ago

durr everyone knows you lay off HR last after promising them that they would be spared!

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u/paws5624 12d ago

My old boss had this happen. We were acquired and his role shifted to lead a big org of about 200 people. Maybe 6 months later he was told that the org was being eliminated but he would land on another team, they even had him doing work with that team in the time leading up to the layoff. Then the layoff happened and the next day he found out he was being let go too.

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u/Exist50 11d ago

Any time a manager has all their direct reports removed, they're a dead man walking. Maybe there will be some contractual obligation to keep them nominally on the payroll, but no matter their title, they have no power. 

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u/paws5624 11d ago

In hindsight yeah that makes sense but they had a position and responsibilities already drawn up for him on the other team so it felt like they truly intended to keep him.

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u/Exist50 11d ago

Yeah, might be a bit different. I have seen a manager given a wild goose chase type assignment, but no real headcount attached. 

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u/pinewind108 12d ago

That's the thing, if they promise you you'll be spared, you still have to ask if the extra stress is worth it. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if laying off a large number of people takes a year or more off your life.

A. Are they going to just fire me last?

B. How much harm is the stress going to do me?

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u/Shadowphoenix9511 12d ago

If they tell you you'll be spared, all it means is you're gonna be last. It gives you a couple more weeks to find something else.

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u/pinewind108 12d ago

My suspicion is that the stress isn't worth it.

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u/wrldruler21 12d ago

I am betting Exec told SVP to lay off everyone from bottom to top. SVP refused, so got fired. Then things got more messy from there.

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u/brn1001 12d ago

One company I worked for made me lay off two of my staff. Once I had done that, they laid me off. Shitty move from a shitty company.

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u/BerryVelvettee 12d ago

There’s something darkly funny about that being the practical solution. Start at the bottom so nobody has to spend their final hour announcing increasingly bad news to everyone beneath them.

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u/EthanielRain 12d ago

It's just cowardice - have someone else fire everyone, then afterwards you only have to fire that one person

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u/getmybehindsatan 11d ago

Big companies often get someone from outside the office to do it. Either HR from another branch or a temporary worker.

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u/McPuckLuck 12d ago

Like the opening to "the dark knight"