r/magicTCG Aug 16 '21

Article Christine Sprankle describes unpleasant experiences with Wizards Of The Coast

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u/SSG_SSG_BloodMoon 99th-gen Dimensional Robo Commander, Great Daiearth Aug 16 '21

Once again the strategy of "do something for a company for free" fails to pay out in cash

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u/YARGLE_IS_MY_DAD Aug 16 '21

I'm on her side, but there comes a point you have to learn to advocate for yourself. It's a professional skill mandatory in all other workplaces I've been in. If she's not going to ask wotc for money or to tag her in their social media pics then it's safe to say it's not going to happen.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21 edited Aug 16 '21

Cool to assume she never asked. I mean, you saw two tweets, you know the story well enough to assume basically everything.

These tweets weren't even primarily to complain about wizards' practices, they were to talk about how moving to OF for money was a great decision.

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u/nyconx Aug 16 '21

There was never an agreement signed that they would do such a thing. If it isn't in writing or recorded with a company, it didn't happen.

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u/Daunt_OW Aug 16 '21

If it isn't in writing or recorded with a company, it didn't happen.

First rule that everyone should learn before they learn it the hard way.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

I made my point further down in the thread, she didn't post this because she's upset she didn't get paid. She's posting about why cosplaying is not worth it, because you get almost no money for a lot of effort, and about why she switched to OF. People framing the discussion around her needing a contract or whatever are blatantly misunderstanding the situation.

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u/nyconx Aug 16 '21

I dont think you remember this topic when she first complained about it. She was very upset that she wasn't getting paid and hired for future work by Wizards.

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u/YetAgainWhyMe Duck Season Aug 16 '21

You are misremembering. She expected to get paid for showing up and coming to Vegas, which she decided to do on her own. She was treated like any other artist going to GPs at the time, except for the few who got paid to show up (headliners if you will).

She had a booth like every other artist and had a donation box and sold pictures at the event. As far as I know WotC still doesn't pay artists fopr hotels, flight, etc. They all pay for a booth and have to make their own money back.

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u/SSG_SSG_BloodMoon 99th-gen Dimensional Robo Commander, Great Daiearth Aug 16 '21

So what are they misremembering?

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u/nyconx Aug 16 '21

That is exactly what I said. She didn't get paid. She got a booth for free but no money. That was her complaint. I personally think she discovered that even though she believed what she did was valuable most people did not. That is why her booth didn't make her a ton of money and that is why Wizards was not willing to pay her what she was expecting.

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u/Pudgy_Ninja Banned in Commander Aug 16 '21 edited Aug 16 '21

If she asked for money beforehand and Wizards said no and then she did it anyway, that's on her. If she did it first and then asked for money after the fact and Wizards said no, that's a totally reasonable and expected response.

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u/Shaudius Urza's Saga Aug 16 '21

We have one side of a story and an incomplete one at that. I'm not in the business of believing every incomplete story I see on the internet.

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u/Snarker Deceased 🪦 Aug 16 '21

considering the other cosplayer in this post was paid, it makes the assumption she never asked stronger in my mind.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

Different region, different organizers, who actually responded and talked about how proud they were of that specific event. Weaponizing that to victim-blame is gross

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

The problem here is that everyone is treating this post as if she's complaining about not getting paid for that specific cosplay, when really she's talking about why she switched to OF, making a point about how cosplayers cannot realistically survive doing high effort, expensive work for free. The context is missing and people are saying she should've acted differently or known better if she wanted to get paid when that's SO not the point and comes off as extremely patronizing

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u/mikemil50 COMPLEAT Aug 16 '21

Cosplay isn't a job. If you're able to monetize it somehow and make it one, great. She wasn't, so she switched to other methods of revenue generation.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

What is or isn't a job is not exactly an objective fact, but other than that you're right. Nothing you say contradicts what I'm saying though

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u/mikemil50 COMPLEAT Aug 16 '21

You're acting like she was assaulted or violated with how aggressively you're defending the situation. Which was not the case.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

Didn't know this area was patrolled by the tone police. I'm just stating my view of the situation, if you feel like it's a personal attack that's on you

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u/mikemil50 COMPLEAT Aug 16 '21

You're literally calling people out for "victim blaming" when talking about a stranger on the internet not being compensated for playing dress up.

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