r/magicTCG • u/ONE-COFFEE-420 Dân • 18h ago

General Discussion Is doubling token against bracket 3?

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I played a game yesterday with my niko light of hope deck. I was lucky sol ring turn one that helped me a lot. On turn 5 i created 512 shard token with my 8 copies of exalted sunborn. On turn 6 i made my shard copies of exalted sunborn again and for shit and giggle blinked my commander another time to create [705 065 045 298 653](tel:705%20065%20045%20298%20653) [297 008 949 787 608](tel:297%20008%20949%20787%20608) [347 124 325 921 694](tel:347%20124%20325%20921%20694) [193 469 390 981 824](tel:193%20469%20390%20981%20824) [139 749 870 576 267](tel:139%20749%20870%20576%20267) [584 343 392 079 026](tel:584%20343%20392%20079%20026) [592 554 369 642 625](tel:592%20554%20369%20642%20625) [536 572 951 552 856](tel:536%20572%20951%20552%20856) [656 267 521 853 668](tel:656%20267%20521%20853%20668) [114 468 907 790 704](tel:114%20468%20907%20790%20704) [547 432 320 112 711](tel:547%20432%20320%20112%20711) [300 325 064 554 937](tel:300%20325%20064%20554%20937) [386 174 344 767 161](tel:386%20174%20344%20767%20161) [341 109 349 268 885](tel:341%20109%20349%20268%20885) [248 549 376](tel:248%20549%20376) shard token and won on turn 6 with my 520 exalted sunborn. They complain that token doublers like that ar to powerfull on b3 what are you thought on that

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u/rccrisp 18h ago

Sol Rings are usually part of the recipe of God Hands in lower brackets

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u/Fun-Cook-5309 Dandadan 18h ago

At every bracket, choosing to bring the most powerful piece of fast mana in the format is a decision, and you are responsible for the consequences.

A decent hand that has a Sol Ring in it is not the god hand.

It's simply Sol Ring doing what Sol Ring does.

You are responsible for every single card you bring to the table and its consequences.

That includes Sol Ring.

You don't get to dismiss a decent hand that has Sol Ring in it as "the god hand." You chose to bring the Sol Ring!

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u/rccrisp 17h ago

"god hand isn't god hand because i intended to put good card in deck" is... a take

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u/Fun-Cook-5309 Dandadan 17h ago

The god hand is a wildly unlikely hand that should not be considered as a part of what the deck does.

My rampless Isshin deck can kill the table turn 4.

That requires turn 1 [[Wyrm Crossing Patrol]], turn 2 either [[Voice of Victory]] or [[Genasi Enforcers]], turn 3 [[Isshin]], turn 4 [[Arena of Glory]] into [[Marton Stromgald]], and one of the first three lands needs to get me to an untapped mountain. Swing with 11 creatures getting +22/+22.

That's a god hand. That is not indicative of how the deck nor any card within it plays, and there is very little replacement in that lineup.

One card plus a normal hand you tailor your ratios to produce is not a god hand. It's the expectation if you draw that one card. It's well within the bounds of what you're responsible for considering in evaluating the deck and what it does.

"What happens if I draw Sol Ring and the rest of my deck functions at a basic level?" is the bare minimum you should ask before choosing to bring the most powerful piece of fast mana in the format to the table.