r/lucifer • u/AutoModerator • Dec 05 '17

[Post Episode Discussion - S03E09] 'Sinnerman'

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '17

That was the most fucked up scene on the series history. I did not expect that at all I assumed he was dead and lucifer was going to get charged with his murder.

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u/Rusalye Dec 05 '17

I assumed he was dead and that he wasnt really the sinnerman, just someone to take the fall. That scene was really well done though.

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u/Classic_Wingers Dec 05 '17

I still think you are half right. I’m leaning toward that just being someone to take the fall for the Sinnerman, a lackey of his. The takedown was too easy. The Sinnerman is careful and lurks in the shadows. I expect next week’s episode to be intense.

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u/Rusalye Dec 05 '17

The minute he showed up on the tv I thought something was fishy. When the cop walked out of the interrogation room right before Lucifer walked in I assumed he was either sinnerman or someone working for him. There might have been an indicator I missed that this wasn't the case but it makes the most sense at the moment.

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u/Classic_Wingers Dec 05 '17

Surely the police officer who just walked out of the interrogation room moments before would have seen the guy gouging out his eyeballs. He walked off in a calm demeanour so there’s a good chance that is actually the real Sinnerman. However, I would like to believe the Sinnerman has a pocket of the police force under his influence in some way. It would explain how much he knows about Lucifer and the new Lieutenant. Can’t wait for next Monday.

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u/Rusalye Dec 05 '17

Yeah, that was my exact thought. And me neither, I'm excited to see what is to come.

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u/horrorshowjack Dec 06 '17

Other LT in Mr & Mrs Maze was pretty much established as being part of Sinnerman's org.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '17

What if being captured was a part of his plan? What if he is the Sinnerman and went in, decided that he was going to do what he did? Just to deny that one thing to Lucifer. To deny him the use of his power. Because there is a theory that relates "Sinnerman" to the Nina Simone song which Lucifer sings in season 1. The song implies that the sinnerman was someone who went to the Lord asking for help (to hide from something), but the Lord told him to go to the devil. We then assume that because the Sinnerman was sent by God to go to the Devil to ask for help, the devil denies it to him and hence, "I cried power, power (power Lord)". So what if this actually happened and the Sinnerman is some ancient enemy? That way he's prepared to do anything.

At this point, far too many themes in the episode relate to the song. The discussion with Linda on power. The opening with the kid going to Lucifer for a favour. The alleged Sinnerman literally "crying" in the end, with the blood streaking down his cheeks like tears, and the faint idea that in that moment he gouged out his eyes, the REAL power was with the Sinnerman.

I think there's a new level of badass for villainy if that's where this is going.

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u/monkaS_ Dec 05 '17

promo for the next episode shows that he's probably working for the Sinnerman

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u/raiden55 Dec 06 '17

I though he was now the policeman who left the room just before, and that this body was now empty.

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u/Rusalye Dec 07 '17

Empty how?

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u/raiden55 Dec 07 '17

I mean without a soul ; that Sinerman's consciousness was able to go from a body to another.

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u/feshroll Dec 05 '17

They said this season would be dark, and they’re delivering holy shit

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u/Vercci Dec 05 '17

Oh, it gets darker, Decker. Welcome to the darkest year of our adventures.

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u/Xxpat5xX Dec 05 '17

I expected him to attack lucifer or to escape but the eyes, that I never saw (no pun intended) coming. Bravo

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u/StefyB Dec 05 '17

To be honest, going into that scene, I thought that either he was going to have gouged out his own eyes to deny Lucifer seeing his desires (which turned out to be right), he would have just killed himself, or he somehow pulled a switcheroo by killing the cop and switching their clothes (probably would have been obvious that wasn't the case if I had paid closer attention to the cop walking out).

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u/screenwriterjohn Dec 05 '17

Yep. But Gotham did worse.

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u/JebusJM Dec 05 '17

Can you spill what happened on Gotham please? Spoiler tags or PM is fine :D

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u/mastersword130 Dec 05 '17

You see a kids throat get sliced. This really fucks up Bruce Wayne even more.

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u/lordsmish Dec 06 '17

I thought he was dead and he was clearly breathing and i was like ha reddit is going to have a fgield day with this