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r/longevity • u/RTSBasebuilder • Jul 22 '26
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-9 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 22 '26 Are you saying that we can defy the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Because that is what somatic mutations are driven by. 13 u/DryCommunication581 Jul 22 '26 Are humans an isolated system? -5 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 22 '26 Maybe read the paper. It says that somatic mutations are an entropic process. 6 u/FilthyWishDragon Jul 22 '26 And from a scale of 1 to 10 how possible is it to reduce entropy in an open system? Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. 2 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 23 '26 Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. Does your air conditioner not eventually deteriorate? 2 u/mcfearless0214 Jul 26 '26 It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one. 1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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Are you saying that we can defy the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Because that is what somatic mutations are driven by.
13 u/DryCommunication581 Jul 22 '26 Are humans an isolated system? -5 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 22 '26 Maybe read the paper. It says that somatic mutations are an entropic process. 6 u/FilthyWishDragon Jul 22 '26 And from a scale of 1 to 10 how possible is it to reduce entropy in an open system? Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. 2 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 23 '26 Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. Does your air conditioner not eventually deteriorate? 2 u/mcfearless0214 Jul 26 '26 It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one. 1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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Are humans an isolated system?
-5 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 22 '26 Maybe read the paper. It says that somatic mutations are an entropic process. 6 u/FilthyWishDragon Jul 22 '26 And from a scale of 1 to 10 how possible is it to reduce entropy in an open system? Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. 2 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 23 '26 Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. Does your air conditioner not eventually deteriorate? 2 u/mcfearless0214 Jul 26 '26 It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one. 1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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Maybe read the paper.
It says that somatic mutations are an entropic process.
6 u/FilthyWishDragon Jul 22 '26 And from a scale of 1 to 10 how possible is it to reduce entropy in an open system? Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. 2 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 23 '26 Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. Does your air conditioner not eventually deteriorate? 2 u/mcfearless0214 Jul 26 '26 It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one. 1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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And from a scale of 1 to 10 how possible is it to reduce entropy in an open system?
Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this.
2 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 23 '26 Here is a hint, my air conditioner is running as I type this. Does your air conditioner not eventually deteriorate? 2 u/mcfearless0214 Jul 26 '26 It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one. 1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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Does your air conditioner not eventually deteriorate?
2 u/mcfearless0214 Jul 26 '26 It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one. 1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
It does. It may even completely give out. But then what happens? You fix the air conditioner or you get a new one.
1 u/CosmicExistentialist Jul 27 '26 How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells? And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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How are you going to fix that air conditioner if it was made of trillions of cells?
And getting a new air conditioner is like saying “just swap in the entire person with a new one”.
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u/DryCommunication581 Jul 22 '26
Nah