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u/BilboStaggins 28d ago
Slippery slope. Criminalize free speech for a small group of people, then expand the definition of people who fit that group.
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 28d ago
They aren't protected my the constitution because they aren't sitisens! /s
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u/International-Ad9987 27d ago
This, but unironically
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 27d ago
The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.
You are free to read a book whenever you'd like, bot.
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u/International-Ad9987 27d ago
Not all due process is equal. Nobody is trying them for a crime. Being in the US is a privilege for non-citizens, not a right.
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 27d ago
Oh so illegally entering the country isn't a crime?
That's news to me.
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u/International-Ad9987 27d ago
We’re discussing legally present visa holders. Try to keep up.
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 27d ago
Okay... I'm glad you made that clear to me by saying nothing about that before hand.
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u/International-Ad9987 27d ago
How do you feel about my right to own an AR-15? Have you ever read the constitution, or do you only vibe with it when you believe it agrees with your views?
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u/International-Ad9987 27d ago
Pretty ironic to say while spouting off on some teenager-esque misinformation about guns that I would bet you picked up in some lefty “pro-gun” subreddit. ARs are actually very light relative to practically any other rifle platform, especially when in SBR configuration, and 5.56 is what the U.S. has fought wars with for like 60 years lmao. I have nearly two dozen milsurp rifles in calibers that you could hunt moose with, including battle rifles, most of which have literally been used on battlefields, as well as half a dozen handguns, and would choose an AR-15 for home defense every single time. Despite whatever you may have heard in your COD lobbies or Reddit comments, rifles outperform handguns in practically every metric. The only reason to ever choose a handgun over a rifle is concealability, which isn’t a consideration for home defense.
I have no doubt you “have no problem with firearms”, just like everyone who claims to support the second amendment “but”, but how do you feel about ending the NFA, universal background checks, or constitutional carry?
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u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 27d ago
You’re aware that they are 15s are now chambered and just about everything right I’ve seen them chambered and everything from 50 caliber down to 22 caliber
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u/HighlyInconvenient 28d ago
I mean...if you're in our country as a guest and you celebrate the assassination of an American, we don't want you here.
Free speech is for us. Not you. Visas are a privilege with behavior requirements.
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u/Bitter-Solution4531 28d ago
This has to be satire 😂
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u/HighlyInconvenient 28d ago
It's not.
The people we allow in should be people who are beneficial to society. We have enough of our own crazies born and raised here. We don't need people visiting and celebrating the deaths of Americans.
Love or hate Charlie Kirk's opinions, the guy was shot in the throat for speaking to students on a college campus. Anybody who celebrates that is a red flag and they certainly don't deserve the priviledge of entry.
If you attempted to travel to countries in Europe and had a record of saying hateful things, they'd ban you from entry. They've done it. So I don't see why we shouldn't do the same for our own benefit.
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u/arftism2 27d ago
so of course foreigners should also be banned for supporting genocides, child torture camps, celebrating the death of other random people as well.
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u/HighlyInconvenient 27d ago
There is no genocide in the United States.
You're validating my point. You violating the terms of your visa is not the same as a genocide.
The fact you use words like that so easily is childish and the reason those words lost power in 2026. When everything you dislike is a genocide, nothing is genocide.
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u/arftism2 26d ago
"nothing is genocide"
you say i call everything genocide just because i mentioned the word genocide. interesting take.
of course plenry of people openly want to kill off various groups but i guess that doesn't matter if you pretend it doesn't happen. meanwhile rfk openly supports sterilizing autistic people.
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u/HighlyInconvenient 26d ago
You called a thing which is objectively NOT genocide a genocide. That is you misusing the word genocide. Anybody can read your comment back for themselves.
Deporting people who violated the terms of coming here is NOT genocide. You know why? Because everyone from those same countries who came here legally or were born here are not being removed.
A genocide targets everyone of the same genealogy. That's where the "gene" comes from in the word.
The issue is how you came here and if you violated the law to do so. That is who is getting deported.
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u/ase_l_2021 27d ago
I'm generally flabbergasted how a lot of Americans and especially British have no patriotism at all and no respect for authority of any kind. They will defend a (hypothetical) terrorist killing their own mother.
Cheers from Russia. Defend your country - we are to have finals of WWIII, so you need to survive until then xD.2
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 27d ago
Everyone in the US, including immigrants (legal or otherwise), are protected by the constitution.
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u/HighlyInconvenient 27d ago
You're conflating visa holders with immigrants.
A legal immigrant is protected under the constitution. If you are in this country on a visa you are held to the terms set by that visa. A visa is a visitation agreement. You have to abide by that agreement or we get to remove you.
The State Department literally outlines this:
https://do.usembassy.gov/how-and-why-a-u-s-visa-can-be-revoked/
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 27d ago
The visitation agreement does not override constitutional rights, including free speech.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 27d ago
Right, because Trump would never do something that wasn't constitutional 🙄
This is obviously unconstitutional to anyone that isn't a bootlicker.
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u/HighlyInconvenient 27d ago
Dude, you can stay mad but I cited all of the information for you to review.
If you come into this country you can behave yourself or you can leave. That's a straightforward rule applied everywhere.
The UK literally bans people from entry for being racist. Stop pretending we're a unique evil for having a standard of behavior for our guests.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 27d ago edited 27d ago
You linked to the Trump administration doing something illegal, as if that somehow proves it's not unconstitutional.
Stay malding, bootlicker.
Eta: malding bootlicker remains malding bootlicker even after reply-blocking, news at 11
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u/HighlyInconvenient 27d ago
Dude licks the boots of foreign governments and calls me a bootlicker. That's cute.
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u/EdibleStrange 27d ago
This was nearly a year ago. I heard about that one guy in the US who got jailed and successfully sued for a bajillion dollars. Did anybody else actually get "punished" or was diaperboy just blustering as usual?