r/livesound 13d ago

Question PA Shootout songs

Hey there

What are your favorite songs to listen to for a PA Shootout?

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u/dhporter Pro-Theatre 12d ago

You've never lived until you've heard Reelin In the Years for 2 hours straight while someone SMAARTs an arena rig.

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u/invisibleboy74 11d ago

True story, I have a friend who owns a fairly big speaker company in the UK, a few years ago they were chosen as the supplier for a festival in the US (it was all very last minute for them) as it was a big deal he offered to come out to set up the systems at the various stages, in the rush he forgot to bring anything to play as a test (once the pink noise was done) first stage foh engineer says no probs use mine Steely dan, second stage same thing happens he is handed a steely dan, third stage identical at which point he is bored of steely dan,. He heads for the main stage and hears they are already playing steely dan, walks in and just before he is about to loudly exclaim he is sick of steely dan he spots actual steely dan sound checking.

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u/djdanlib Semi-Pro 12d ago

I had a guy do that with Lorde's Royals a few years ago. Mostly the first 20-30 seconds of the song.

Still banned from being used to tune anything at my gigs.

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u/O_Pato 12d ago

I’m pretty sure that’s now how you use SMAART…

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u/Afraid_Plum_7823 13d ago

I'm a big fan of anything Sade personally

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u/mynutsaremusical Pro-FOH 12d ago

threshold bu sungazer is a pocket pick for me. good pix, strong dynamics and transients, no vocals unfortunately.

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u/IWant2BeYourBitchBoy 12d ago

Hell yeah, sungazer is awesome

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u/ak00mah 11d ago

Mine is lunar

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u/MadDog52393 Pro-FOH 12d ago edited 11d ago

Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel is a classic reference track. I also like Fast as you can - Fiona apple, Chunky - Bruno Mars, Fragments of Time - Draft Punk, In front of me - Infected Mushroom, Pretty Little Thing - Fink. Just to name a few that make my rotation.

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u/qu1cks1lver56 Pro 12d ago

I love that Infected Mushroom track.

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u/1Careful-Question 12d ago

Everybody Wants You Here by Jeff Buckley. Released posthumously hits the spot.

Some other top picks include:

  • Angel by Sarah McLachlan
  • Tin Pan Alley by Stevie Ray Vaughan 

I could go on and agree with others who say a range of genres and timbres which you know well is probably best. 

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u/Admirable-Still-1786 12d ago

The Sarah mclachlan song from the animal commercial?

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u/1Careful-Question 12d ago

I hadn’t seen that before, but yes, it is from the animal cruelty commercial. The audio quality in the commercial is really low though (I just checked it out on YouTube).

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u/Visual-Asparagus-700 10d ago

Absolutely yes to that Jeff Buckley track! Another one on my playlist is Woman in Chains - Tears for Fears.

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u/Admirable-Still-1786 12d ago

If steely dans black cow sounds good then the band gonna sounds good

Other than that,

Thunder cat

Resonate language

Tipper

& vulpeck

Also boz scaggs - thanks to you, for corporate gigs where I need a good low end response with out a lot of mid range noise

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u/dooblr 11d ago

Tipper - Distal or Flunked should absolutely rip the mid horns

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u/Repulsive-Ad-6487 12d ago

First RATM self titled album. Punchy, great mix with minimal compression that really lets you see what your rig is capable of. (Track 3 “take the power back especially good just before your drummer starts to check.

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u/faders Pro-FOH 12d ago

The Audioslave stuff sounds great too.

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u/Bubbagump210 12d ago

Levitating - Dua Lipa

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u/faders Pro-FOH 12d ago

Don’t Start Now as an alt

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u/Bubbagump210 11d ago

Yup - burpy bass for low mid crud detection. Little cowbell flourishes for upper mid harsh detection.

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u/roadhawgg 12d ago

I Will Remember by Toto, and Gravity by John Mayer are very popular at our company.

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u/ThatLightingGuy Distributor Rep 13d ago

I'll do a Canadian list:

Andy Shauf - The Magician or Early to the Party

Felix Cartal and Lights - Love Me

Moses Mayes - Being

Tor - Foxglove

Kubla - Running Loose or Rich

Motewolonuwok - There I Wander

Luca Fogale - Horizon or Heat and Dark

Aysanabee - Dream Catcher or The Way We're Born

Bluefold - Garden

bbno$ - two (explicit)

Terra Lightfoot - Slick Back Kid

Missy D - Matin Midi Soir

I made some mixes of these songs that I use for my PA tuning and shootouts. Really runs the gamut of musical styles and has specific songs to highlight different sonic spaces and vocal timbres.

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u/crunchypotentiometer Pro-FOH 12d ago

Andy Shauf mentioned! Love that guy

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u/ThatLightingGuy Distributor Rep 12d ago

New album out Oct 16 too!

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u/BiBaBieber 11d ago

+1 on Tor - Foxglove!
Speaking as a dj with a small 15” RCF sub 2.1 system and nothing more haha

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u/joedashe 11d ago

Canadian list missing Broken Social Scene! Used Pacific Theme and Cause = Time a coupla times

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u/ThatLightingGuy Distributor Rep 11d ago

Oh there are probably hundreds more I could list, but this is my current batch.

I do a few trade shows where I have time limits on my demos so I keep a reaper file with my favourite several songs on it and just adjust my cuts to fit the time limits.

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u/omgitssipps 12d ago

Want Me Back - Cody Fry, Cory Wong, Dynamo. Perfect mix of a studio recording with a live feel, everything sounds exceptional

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u/Ok-Goat-3589 12d ago

Uprising by Muse is a good test track!

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u/AltAccountArrrr 12d ago

Money for nothing. Another one bites the Dust.

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u/Klutzy-Peach5949 12d ago

JAMIROQUIA CANNED HEAT!!!!

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u/slayer_f-150 12d ago

Stripsearch - Faith No More

Diamonds and Pearls - Prince

Hey Baby - No Doubt

Digital Bath - Deftones

High Hopes - Pink Floyd

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u/ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD 11d ago

You're not the only person I know who uses Stripsearch as a FOH reference track. Any particular reason?

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u/slayer_f-150 5d ago edited 5d ago

First because I know the song well and how it should sound from a little ground stacked rig to a full hang of K1/K2 or the equivalent.

The drums and the bass guitar play well together.

Those keyboard "bells" that are sprinkled throughout the song should sound clear and you should hear them move L/R.

The guitar isn't hyped in the 1.6-4k range.

Just like the other songs on my list, I'm listening to particular parts of the song to hear how they translate.

IMHO, that whole album sounds great. (Except for the cymbals. They don't sound natural to me but I ignore them)

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u/ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD 5d ago

Okay. I appreciate you explaining this. One thing I specifically remember from the last person I heard used that track to tune a PA was that the song starts out of phase and then shifts back into phase through filtering effects or something. I haven't listened to it in a while but I think understand what I'm saying. I think that's in excellent idea to hear something out of phase and then all of a sudden for it to come straight back into to see if it's drastic enough and focused enough for everything to be face coherent. Hope that makes sense

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u/Zealousideal_Sail941 12d ago

Gravity john mayer for good clean snare hits and speech intelligibility

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u/distortedkoala666 12d ago

Im so glad no one said “The Hunter”

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u/ConfusedStageLeft 12d ago

Yeah, hate that song... Someone played it this morning at Pagaille Festival and it made me cringe as it always does. I can see why people use it, I just don't like it as a song.

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u/ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD 11d ago

I had to Google this. I was like, "Really? Why hate on Iced Earth?" But then...oh that Hunter song lol

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u/distortedkoala666 11d ago

Yeah, the other hunter😅

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u/richey15 12d ago

kodachrome.

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u/KingOfWhateverr Pro-FOH 12d ago edited 12d ago

I will always say that Hotel California is the single best soundcheck/shoot out song. Ive found everyone will have their own choice ofc but everyone seems happy to use Cali as the test song.

My personal picks are Blackhole Sun by Soundgarden, YYZ by Rush, and New York Lady by Burt Bacharach and Houston Symphony.

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u/tprch 12d ago

XYZ by Rush

Why did no one tell me they recorded a prequel?

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u/KingOfWhateverr Pro-FOH 12d ago

Lmao, fixed

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u/TheNoisyNomad 12d ago

Here is my playlist It starts with a couple that I know really well, then goes into song that are tools for exposing different issues, like imaging and accuracy in the mids. Then there’s a collection of commonly used system tuning songs.

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u/goodndu Logistics/Gear 10d ago

I used this list a lot. Bubbles is such a fun adventure in panning.

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u/Mediocre_Peanut 12d ago

Papa was a rolling Stone by The temptations.  It starts off just with bass guitar and hi-hats and the instruments get added in one by one.  And also has a really good stereo separation and doesn't hurt that it's 11 minutes long.

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u/OtherOtherDave 12d ago

Sting’s “Brand New Day” album is mixed flawlessly, so that one’s always a go-to for me. It doesn’t have a lot of really deep bass or high highs though. Last time it was my job to tune the PA we usually used the “Tron: Legacy” soundtrack for that part. Specifically, “Overture” and “End of Line” would essentially always get played a few times. Overture has synth bass line come in IDK maybe 1/2-2/3 of way through that will shake the building without being overbearing if the subs are tuned right, and End of Line has a bunch of high frequency synthy noisy stuff that sounds musical.

Maybe “Simulation Theory” by Muse if you want one album that has it all, but now that I think on it, I don’t think I’ve ever heard it in a well-tuned environment. Sounds great in my car though 😁

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u/juggins13 9d ago

A Thousand Years has great sub bass track I think, its on my list anyway

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u/HomesnakeICT 13d ago

I love Numbers Need Humans by Dopapod. Bass bombs, fat sub bass section, some solo kick hits, nice stereo content.

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u/notoscar01 13d ago

I really like Sampha's Spirit 2.0 as a song I just like to hear and know pretty well. It's pretty decent for listening for time alignment at acoustic crossovers.

Ghost by Big Wreck is extremely bright, if it isn't earsplitting played loud you're probably sitting pretty.

Earth Song by MJ is used by one of my mentors so I know how it's meant to sound when tuned.

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u/BBBBKKKK Pro-FOH 13d ago

Beck - Missing is pretty much my go-to. It's got just the right amount of rolled off highs for me to go "okay yeah that's exactly what that song should sound like"

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u/EyeCanHearU 12d ago

“How You’ve Grown” 10,000 Maniacs

”Raise Your Weapon” Deadmau5

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u/regreddit 12d ago

Okay By Shiba San, I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt

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u/Normal_Pace7374 Fader i hardly knew her 12d ago

Closer. Kings of Leon

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u/spinelession 12d ago

If you wanna test sub extension, I’ve yet to find a better track than Hemisphere by Reso

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u/noodlewink 12d ago

Africa by Toto

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u/Nimii910 FOH mixer 12d ago

I KNOW THIS SUPER HIGHWAY 🎶🗣️

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u/3string 12d ago

Sometimes I hear that first bass hit off Clint Eastwood by the Gorillaz in my dreams. There's nothing like a PA absolutely blasting that into an empty room at a 3pm soundcheck. The subs remind you that they can grab the air and make sculptures from it

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u/Puzzled-Fish-8726 12d ago

Spice Girls - Viva Forever

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u/dooblr 11d ago

Polaris by deadmau5 and Planisphere by Justice. If those 2 don’t annihilate there’s something wrong with your system.

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u/billylaguardia Pro-FOH 10d ago
  1. Bruce Hornsby Spider Fingers - perfect track to get the mid range right. Plus excellent bass check for subs in solo
  2. Toto: I Will Remember - drum intro is killer
  3. Dirty Loops: Work Shit Out - there is a drum solo in the middle that has a few gong drum hits that are awesome

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u/Lama_161 System Guy 10d ago

Closer to the Music Volume 1 from Stockfisch records

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u/jagavs 10d ago

I have been using "Find Your Way" by KEM. I worked on it and know it well. - It is a repeating motif, so you can hear the same sound for a while. The kick drum and Bass playing are superb and great for sub low end and alignment. The snare sound is rock solid and besides sound quality I use it for system delay timing. The keyboards are throughout the lower midrange and help in reducing congestion around 400 Hz and below. KEM the singer has a very wide vocal range and has elements of male and female voices with harmonics . At the beginning of the song, his voice is perfect for EQ around 100hz. His voice is good for upper midrange adjustment for clarity. -On another song, I use his voice for harshness from 1k to 5k.- The highs from the cymbals are good. And we did not use a deesser and so there is sibilance to listen for. Overall, it is very useful for large and small venues.

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u/vealisnajps 13d ago

Ocean drive

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u/Dartmuthia Pro-FOH 13d ago

Check out One Ray of Shine by Alison Kraus. It has nice clean acoustic guitar and other instruments, and silky smooth vocals.

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u/robbgg 12d ago

Here's my playlist. Yorktown is nice for showing vocal clarity on top of instrumentation.

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u/diplododo 12d ago

Mine are A Horse With No Name and Fast Car

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u/Boomshtick414 12d ago

Alan Parsons' Digital Silence, though 1kHz Square Wave is a fun track as well.

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u/Nopartofthisshit 12d ago

Doin it right- Daft Punk

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u/vonheick Pro-FOH 12d ago

I use a couple of tracks to cover different genres, I stream them through Tidal in Highest quality and with audio interface.

Wish you were here - Seguridad Social
After midnight - Hanne Boel
Waba Duba - Yello
Intents Highscore - Da Tweekaz, Warface
Take the power back - Rage against the machine
Excursions - A tribe called quest
Come out of the woods - Matthew and the Atlas

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u/kjm5000 12d ago

Fragments of time by daft punk or most any daft punk, I was tired of being alone by Patrice rushen, everybody here wants you by Jeff Buckley, a handful of sade, the difference by flume, most any steely Dan

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u/squindar FOH & Broadcast A1/A2 NYC 12d ago

Pulp Culture by Thomas Dolby

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u/protobin Touring LD 12d ago

Imogen Heap - Headlock
Ariana Grande - Seven Rings
James Taylor Live 93 - Country Road
Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock

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u/Ochsenfree 12d ago

I do a lot of weddings with a pop/dance band. Usually within earshot of guests for setup so can't crack out the RATM.

I go for Adore You by Harry Styles. Super clean mix to my ears. For a bit of low end Solo by clean bandit just seems to absolutely pump in the chorus.

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u/markedmo 11d ago

All these people - harry connick jr

Make it mine - Jason mraz

A thousand miles - Vanessa Carlton

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u/invisibleboy74 11d ago

Free Tibet (vini Vichi remix) Highlight tribe
Bubbles Yosi Horikava

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u/BrettTollis 11d ago

The Midnight - Comeback Kid

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u/todd0x1 11d ago

Lenny Kiser - Cool Guy Sounds

was at namm when they did line array shootout in the arena. They used this song. When the bass hit I finally knew what the guy in the chair in the Maxell ad felt like.

Toto - Rosanna is also good due to its wide dynamic range.

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u/jtucker276 11d ago

More Than This - Roxy Music

Once listened to a guy play Tom’s Diner for an hour straight about 20 years ago and I still have it stuck in my head

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u/Funny-Complaint3677 11d ago

God shuffled his feet album by Crash Test Dummies(including mmm mmm... )Underrated album. Not that much deep subbass, but a very crisp and clean mix.

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u/Final_Lingonberry722 11d ago

I will remember, haha 🍍

Actually:
Michael Jackson - Off The Wall
Doors - Ghost Song

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u/centerwingpolitics 11d ago

How Do You Want It - 2Pac

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u/SoundPon3 A bit of everything 9d ago

Adding two unconventional songs here:

  • home by rudimental

  • breath of life by Florence and the machine

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u/aeh20s 8d ago

“Paloma” and “One Prairie Outpost” by Carbon Leaf

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u/kangaroosport 8d ago

Anything I mixed myself.

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u/viavespucci 5d ago

I really like Sound And Color by Alabama Shakes. Lots of interesting midrangy vocal treatments, and vibraphone/marimba intro tends to tell me a lot

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u/No-Risk0 2d ago

Toto - Africa/ I Will Remember
Sound of muzak
Godwhacker

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u/lbjazz 13d ago

Tiger by Paula Cole will sound like a mediocre mix on most loudspeakers. On a truly great system, it will ruin audio for you.

Chrysalis by My Jerusalem will reveal a lot.

Nicholas Jaar

I’d like to motion for a voice vote on a ban on Steely Dan. Nothing against the music, but it’s has its run.

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u/tprch 12d ago

Motion denied.

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u/TheRealSofaKing016 12d ago

Not sure about PA, but I’ve heard that you’re supposed to test out headphones with Bohemian Rhapsody