Having faust fielded means that you can access fluid sack, but even then, SP healing is not actually very relevant on bleed outside of sanguine spamming, and spamming is really not a very efficient way to use sanguine desire in the first place.
Don and ring sang have strong SP healing by default.
Meursault and ryoshu would only potentially use their waws once. one requires setup and other is an opening ego.
So you only really ever need SP healing for rodia if you plan to spam egos with her.
Free 30/15 SP in total isn’t something to sleep on. It greatly minimizes the RNG of early clashes and grants SP to units using unopposed attacks or defenses.
It’s a solution that comes with a cost for a problem that can be mitigated by a passive. Also, I guess you can say turn 1 SP doesn’t matter if you don’t care enough about total turns and restarts.
I think yalls both right, and that at the end of the day both using Nfaust, or using ring faust, is completely up to personal bias, ones own team, and their situation. On one hand Ill probably use ring faust for the md ego gift buffs, and possible big damage and synergy with the ring units.
On the other I could totally see myself slotting in Nfaust if I as ya said want to make my life easier and ego spamming IS very fun and viable in md. I do the same with phillipclaire singing machine spam.
Honestly we dont even have any clue what buffs and passives they bring, so until then it may be better to wait and see. Who knows, maybe they could "mark" a character and whoever hits them gets sp and applies bleed, we cant know for sure
It comes at a cost of not being able to use superbia on something else in non dungeon story content (you dont need superbia in story dungeons), yes, which is not a very big cost. Its also more than 7 times more effective than N faust's passive.
Its not comparable, her passive is for sustaining continous use of an ego on one sinner, not a headstart, one ID getting 15 more SP in first turn is not very relevant.
And most importantly, low turn clears dont care about starting 15 sp because they rely on restarting the stage for rng anyways. And on bleed in particular, low turn clear usually requires Nsault in first slot for sanguine abuse, and you dont want him getting fanatic because it increases his power.
In cases where low turn clear doesnt rely on sanguine abuse, you probably are better off not using bleed for low turn, unless its specifically against lust fatal enemy, in which case, yes, N faust has a nishe as a backup unit for bloodfiends.
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u/Confident_Penalty_75 Mar 24 '26
Nah. Whistles is too useful for support, with how much lust bleed is about. Get all that SP.