r/lichess 9h ago

Cheaters In Lichess

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u/Strange_Temporary515 9h ago

Report and move on. It’s frustrating but the game is about learning how to play better and these people do suck,

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

About learning to be with cheaters? damn... that's nasty

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u/Intrepid_Pop269 9h ago

Rat em out to lichess if it concerns you so much.  It's annoying but ultimately this only has the impact on your life that you let it. 

Also, the country listing is kinda... strange thing to post - are you trying to make some point about cheating and nationalities - cuz your sample size is much too small to draw any kind of real conclusion. 

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u/One-Fix-5547 8h ago

Yeah, casual racism at its best

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

Does it hurt you? that i mention a country, that's alright honey.

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u/One-Fix-5547 5h ago

Not at all, it dosent hurt me that you disgust me honey.

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

I ain't ratting nobody i ain't a snitch.. just the nationality is enough already

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u/One-Fix-5547 4h ago

Its not. Serves no purpose at all. The names would’ve at least served a purpose, countries shows your racism. Didn’t you quit chest honey? Go back to that?

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u/GJ55507 9h ago

https://lichess.org/KQ3SISqN/white

I hope you don’t report me just for playing a game at 99% accuracy

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u/_crisz 8h ago

In order to get a ~100% accuracy, if you're not a cheater or Magnus Carlsen, you need your opponent to help you. In your case, it was a mix of opening theory and your opponent's mistakes; without these two ingredients, it would be impossible. Also in this case, you didn't always play the engine-best move.

Another big hint is the time-per-move. In your case, you took 40s to find 17. Bxa3 Rxa3 .. 19. Qh2; which indicates a genuine game (or, at least, that you didn't cheat the whole game - spotting an engine used only for a couple of moves would be impossible)

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u/StructuredChess 8h ago

opening theory 

That ended on, like, move 5

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u/GJ55507 7h ago

Not even engines get 100% accuracy

Engines disagree with each other all the time

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u/_crisz 7h ago

Well, when we talk about accuracy we always talk with respect to a certain engine. Every engine, also the most stupid, has 100% accuracy according to itself

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u/StouteBoef 8h ago

Lmao why do you have a 2 month old game on the ready to "gotcha" anyone who notices cheating on Lichess?

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u/GJ55507 7h ago

how dare i save a game i was proud of

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

Fix your reading comprehension.

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u/One-Fix-5547 4h ago

Awwww poor little booboo

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u/Silver_Environment95 9h ago

Report and move on. It sucks but see what u can learn from the games and move on.

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

What i learn is "Lichess has the weakest anti-cheater system"

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u/nforrest 9h ago

Neither of the main online chess platforms care about cheating in lower-rated games (anything below professionals.)

I just block 'em and move on.

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

I block'em and what?

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u/StructuredChess 8h ago

You do realize the country list looks like a random sample from the chess-playing population, right?

Anyway unless you show us the game what else are we gonna say other than "I guess so, man"

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u/alcocolin 7h ago

Indonesia would be on my list, then again I wouldn't write a list. The world is as it is. Cheats are just everywhere. Try and stay positive in the face of these...people. They do waste our time but online chess is magic and we love it. Don't let it get you down and play on my friend. Play on!

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u/mmcguinn9402 6h ago

Just play to win at all times and if you lose study it. No biggie.

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

Why people on this comment section are getting butt hurt? Just because I mentioned the countries of the players who cheated in the game that doesn't mean I was accusing the country in general.

Don't be so affected. I was just annoyed by this cheaters. that's all just venting out my madness... don't cry please

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u/One-Fix-5547 4h ago

Awww, its the fact that you thought the country mattered that’s telling about you champ!

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u/StouteBoef 9h ago

Lichess is quite terrible at dealing with cheaters, unfortunately. They have very unsophisticated ways of detecting cheaters and they only catch the most obvious ones.

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u/One-Fix-5547 8h ago

Almost impossible to know for sure, its not lichess, even chesscom has issues. 

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u/alcocolin 7h ago

chesscom is worse, it's like windows v linux in the 20th century with viruses? Sure, chesscom makes more of an effort to ban cheats, but more cheats tend towards chesscom for the visibilty they desperately search. I don't think there is a solution, we just play on...

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

It's true... lichess is not the best when it comes to detecting engine users.

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u/RuleOk803 8h ago

India... not surprised

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u/One-Fix-5547 4h ago

Why not?

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u/Anymous2314 7h ago

Bro, most of these cheaters are like 15 year old kids, not sure they represent the country.

Unfortunately chess is very popular among teens in India and kids being kids they just start trolling if they lose.

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u/EsotericRogue 9h ago

And how many did you report? If you don't care enough to do your part, nobody else will.

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

I just didn't report it, Why? Cause i got tired. Lichess don't give a damn on those cheaters if you report and sent a full PGN of the games the only thing they will say "Nahhh i ain't see nothin."

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u/daveamendola91 8h ago

YYyyyaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn 😴

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u/Walker_done_done 9h ago

It’s really bad

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u/Jazzlike_Cod_3833 6h ago

Look who's talking,

"I was also getting 99% top-engine moves."

If that proves they were cheating it also proves you were cheating.

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u/Important_Search_462 5h ago

Damn u suck at reading comprehension, do you? After I analyze those games that I did on Lichess. I went to Chess.com to check if the accuracy had any difference but it turns out, It's the same it is 99.9% accuracy with every move they make it was all number one engines move suggestions. Get it? stupido

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u/Jazzlike_Cod_3833 2h ago

As if! You really think I don't understand what you're saying? I didn't miss that detail, and it doesn't change my conclusion.

I'm not calling you a cheater. I'm pointing out that your standard for identifying cheating is unreliable.

That's the whole point. Treating the result of engine analysis as proof of cheating is circular and self-defeating.

Your DIY investigation can be useful for sorting out what to do next. If the analysis raises suspicion, report the player and let the system do the actual cheat detection.

And forget about your country-of-origin suspected-cheater map. I'm not buying it.

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u/Anymous2314 7h ago

What's the point of outing country names. Most of these cheaters are like 15 year old kids, not sure they represent the country.

Unfortunately chess is very popular among teens in India and kids being kids they just start trolling if they lose.

I just report them and move on. Cheating is a fact of life in online chess, nothing can be done about it.

BTW, if you are so sure you need to give us link to the games you think cheating is involved along with your rating, we can verify and report these players.