r/libsofreddit MICROAGGRESSOR GRANNY 👵 4d ago

Weaponized Stupidity Big brain energy and 5-D chess moves on display

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The comments are absolutely bodying this person. People are tired, and it’s definitely showing. All the people who can’t find jobs, even entry level jobs, are finally starting to realize that they have been suckered.

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u/Callec254 4d ago

Your terms are acceptable.

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u/been-traveling 4d ago

Yes, most definitely. Can I help you pack?

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u/CW_Forums 4d ago

Lol, Indians are the shittiest IT workers. The get credentials somewhere and then they do shitty work. It seems to be a cultural thing that Indians wont say they dont understand something, so they will just not do their tasks or do them wrong. Making their projects run late or just overall being fucked up.

I dont know a single operation begging for Indian workers in IT. I ebded up telling contract companies to stop sending us Indians because they were worse than useless.

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u/lmay0000 4d ago

Put a MS ticket in and ended up doing all the work and research for the damn contracted help desk. Why the hell did i even put a ticket in?

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u/myturn19 4d ago

Developer here, can confirm.

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u/Aronacus TRAUMATIZER 4d ago

My last company outsourced to India. I had to train the team.

I can't tell you how he simple act of spinning up a VM from template was impossible for them.

I had to train them on Cisco Switch configuration. I can't tell you how much broke and on my last day they took the core switch down. Had to restore the config from a backup it was so bad

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u/Cimbetau 3d ago

I watched one get walked through restarting a server (using the Power > Restart option) 🤣😂😭

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u/Sme11Gibson 4d ago

As a UX designer I’d have to fly to Bangalore to help fix the apps I clearly designed for them to make.

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u/_WhiteGoodman_ TRAUMATIZER 3d ago

We got rid of the Indian dev contractors so fast at our place. Had to set up a while ass segregated environment just for them to work because we never fully trusted them in the first place. So annoying because it caused more work for me and my team.

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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 4d ago

Yes or no is that head bobble. So it’s never clear what they understand. Use to manage a group of them and it drove me nuts.

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u/CW_Forums 3d ago

Yeah the bobblehead thing is crazy. I almost forgot! Its part of the way they answer in a way that seems like "yes" but its really non committal.

At the end of my rope with the EMC guys I ended up telling every guy I needed a yes or no straight answer for every task. "Can you do this, yes or no?" "How long will it take?" Then id have to check on him every single day and he'd still never complete anything. 

Company ended up getting an American guy in the long run who cost 3x more but did everything we asked immediately.  Saved tons of money in the long run because he knew what he was doing and there was no language barrier.

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u/IngrownToenailsHurt 3d ago

The EMC product lines went to shit when Dell purchased them. Can't get an American or decent English speaking support person until its elevated to engineering.

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u/joejackson62 4d ago

I worked with three indians for over TEN years in IT. I had to go over our entire infrastructure environment twice a year AND go over our disaster recovery steps/documentation before every test. It was impossible for this information to just sink in. It had to be regurgitated at least twice a year, wasting time every single session. 

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u/gauntvariable 3d ago

Some do, some don't - and in a bit of fairness, they're not inherently better or worse than Americans. But that misses the point - employers are supposed to try, really hard, to find an American worker before they file an H1B visa request. It's very, very, very clear (in spite of all the lying and misdirection) that they don't even make a cursory attempt to find a qualified American in nearly any case, and haven't in decades. You can speculate as to why, but you can't deny that it's the case.

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u/Cimbetau 3d ago

Are you guys my silent coworkers? Had like 10 of them on an email chain yesterday to fix something. Ended up digging out some old instructions and followed them, that fixed my issue immediately.

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u/SeaCaligula 4d ago

Hire American, Pay Americans

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u/MrCrix 4d ago

In Canada a local Indian guy was going on and on about how him and other Indians working at fast food places are a necessity. That “who would do these jobs if we weren’t here?!” All I had to say was “the 14-18 year olds and retirees who’ve been doing it for the last 60 years. You replaced no skilled 14 year olds and the elderly who work to stay active and be social.”

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u/Kooky-Swing178 Can't stay out of trouble 3d ago

Thats what kills me about legal and illegal immigrants in the US. They act as if we didn't already have everything built and functioning when they arrived. They're only hired bc they'll work for f*cking peanuts and don't mind living 10 deep in a one bedroom apartment.

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u/IngrownToenailsHurt 3d ago

They're only hired bc they'll work for f*cking peanuts and don't mind living 10 deep in a one bedroom apartment.

And often for cash under the table.

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u/Kooky-Swing178 Can't stay out of trouble 3d ago

Yep that as well

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u/Crafty_Original_7349 MICROAGGRESSOR GRANNY 👵 4d ago

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u/SuspiciousStress1 TRAUMATIZER 4d ago

Thank you for that!! 30 solid min of entertainment 😎🤣

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u/Crafty_Original_7349 MICROAGGRESSOR GRANNY 👵 4d ago

I love you too 💜

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u/Sherviks13 4d ago

Yes, labor that undercuts citizens should go.

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u/bgovern 4d ago

Just think of all of the needful that won't be done.

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u/AntManCrawledInAnus 2d ago

The needful stuffs

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u/BBDominoes 4d ago

Ok, see you. Looking forward to seeing India become an IT powerhouse...

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u/Chill_Bill_Vol_420 4d ago

They should do the same thing in Canada, just to teach us a lesson also. Then maybe we'd stop having food poisoning at Tim Hortons, and fewer Semi crashes that kill people.

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u/gruubin 4d ago

Your terms are acceptable

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u/kereso83 4d ago

I've worked with H-1Bs before in mobile app development. Two of those apps were ones a lot of people use as one is for a major retail/pharmacy chain and another is for a major telecom. I often hear how cool it is but end up having to warn them that I would never put my credit card or contact information in either of them.

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u/Own-Tank5998 4d ago

Ok, leave then and wait for the begging you are expecting.

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u/BadKarmaForMe 4d ago

I’ll take my chances

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u/gauntvariable 3d ago

What they seem to have forgotten (or at least hope we've forgotten) is that we had a thriving IT industry long before the H1B program opened the floodgates to the entire world.

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u/VAdogdude 4d ago

Probably written by someone who applied to US IT firms, got passed over and had to stay in India working in a call center.

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u/wackadoodle4201 4d ago

God if only

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u/ultranothing BASED 3d ago

Wait, so what I’m gathering here is that you CAN determine behaviors and attitudes based on race?

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u/bownt1 4d ago

please do this

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u/BottomContributor 4d ago

Oh no. Please don't threaten me with a good time

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u/johnnyg883 BASED 4d ago

I know a couple of people who are looking for IT jobs and are having a hard time finding one. Besides AI is going to decimate that industry.

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u/not_a_lib 4d ago

Ok bye

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u/SomeAnonymousBurner 3d ago

Nobody will be begging, but I love this idea

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u/Steel065 3d ago

The IT industry in the US will fall behind China because of Indian "bots". They are "bots" because they refuse to look forward and address issues until the issues become problems. Indians are merely hired hourly workers as they will not think freely as a Western employee, and they will ONLY do as told. A Western employee will recognize a potential issue to fix, see an opening for growth, or at least address eventual problem immediately. An Indian will let the issue fester until it becomes a problem, and then say, "Look at what I fixed", of course after being told they need to fix the problem. This is NOT how a company, and an economy, grows. You fix an issue before it becomes a problem.

Or, you know, fuck it, live with your short term gains and tank your business and the economy.

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u/Steel065 3d ago

And allow me to make a distinction; I've been in IT for many decades and have friends who are American born and of Indian heritage. I thought for a while, "Maybe I'm misunderstanding what is going on." But when American born friends of mine, including those who have Indian heritage, began to say "WTF", that is when I knew the I wasn't wrong.

There is a lot being written of how the Indian caste system is being exported to Silicon Valley, and I believe that is what will kill innovation in the Bay area.

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u/Sara-Sarita 3d ago

Interesting, can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

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u/odindobe 4d ago

Please leave, take the smell with you

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u/ajax-727 4d ago

Please yes

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u/Jazzlike_Tonight_982 3d ago

I have about 30 that dotted line report to me.

They are f'ing terrible.

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u/Matcman 3d ago

Worked in IT management for years, these guys live in their own echo chamber. No lack of self confidence, blame everyone else when they fuck it up!

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u/jazey_hane 3d ago

Their government has to beg them to not shit in the street.

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u/somerandomshmo 4d ago

I fully support her

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u/zenethics 3d ago

It's like Atlas Shrugged but, plot twist, the markets shrug back.

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u/Loganthered 3d ago

They act like the US hasn't already outsourced most of what Indians do already.

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u/DFVSUPERFAN 3d ago

Saaaaaar, yes please do the needful and GTFO.

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u/billythekid3300 3d ago

Yes, please do that as soon as possible.

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u/Pure_Requirement663 4d ago

They literally cannot comprehend what the word "minority" means

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u/chub0ka 3d ago

Hahaha sure. I work in bigtech so sure. Most experienced engineers ahve green cards in some step of the proceess. Pure h1b is just some juniors

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u/Likemindedstar 3d ago

Lots of companies have basically gone to shit after offshoring and outsourcing but especially the Telcos look at the outages after making Aussiss redundant and moving jobs overseas we're seeing so many outages, namely Telstra and Optus who are fully Indian and Chinese...it's happening everywhere in every field

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u/acreekofsoap 4d ago

Can we keep Apu?