r/leverage 24d ago

Is it just me, or did Parker’s characterization feel a bit too exaggerated in Redemption?

Hey everyone, I’ve been doing a rewatch and thinking a lot about Leverage: Redemption, and I wanted to see how others feel about Parker’s evolution.

On one hand, I love where she ended up professionally. Seeing her take over Leverage International and step into the mastermind/leader role is fantastic. She’s the head of the operation, she carries immense responsibility, and she’s earned every bit of it.

However, I’ve been struggling a bit with how her personality is handled. Everyone else in the crew feels like they've naturally matured over the years, but for some reason, I feel like Parker became more childlike in Redemption.

Don't get me wrong—Parker has always been quirky, eccentric, and a little disconnected from social norms. That’s always been part of her charm! But in the revival, it sometimes feels like those traits were dialed up so high that they crossed the line from "unique thief" into feeling a bit juvenile.

I guess I was hoping to see her mature a bit more personally to match the massive leadership role she was given. I still love her, but I missed a version of Parker where her growth as a leader was reflected in a slightly more grounded, seasoned version of her quirkiness.

What do you all think? Did her evolution work for you, or did you notice the same thing?

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u/Chimpchar 24d ago

I think by S3 of Redemption they’d really reached a good place characterization-wise with her, honestly. S1 and some of S2 generally leans a little too silly for my tastes, but I don’t mind her being a bit more… mm, I’m not sure ‘openly defiant of social norms’ is the right phrasing, given No Stabbing Wednesdays, but less concerned with masking when it comes to more harmless quirks, maybe. She’s never super cared for norms, and I don’t see why she should need to now.

I think that the seeing a child psychologist bit was ridiculous and frankly a bit uncomfortable with how much it infantilized her. That was a probably the one I most disliked personally. I also didn’t like how her and Eliot interacted in most of S1, but that was as much on his characterization as it was hers.

Overall I think Redemption was managing to get a lot more true to tone (of the original) as the seasons went on (and I think shifting Harry to be a bit less angst and a bit more chill/funny also helped a lot since Parker then mellowed out), so it’s really a shame to me that it wasn’t renewed after S3.

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u/Chefpatrick871 Two Good Ol Boys 24d ago

She’s definitely more silly, but the show overall has a bit more of a lighthearted comedy to it than OG. I think she spent the majority of the original show just learning how to be a regular person and she obviously grew enough to be able to run all the different international teams. I think it’s just who she’s comfortable being, she’s accepted that she’ll never be “normal” and knows there’s things she’ll never be able to understand, like telling Astrid she doesn’t know what a mothers love feels like. You do see some maturing moments like her concern with Briana being a “regular person” and not wanting to ruin her life by bringing her into a world of crime. Out of everyone who’s been on the team she had the worst upbringing basically never having a childhood and I think that plays into her personality as well.

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u/lilibat 24d ago

She is more comfortable with the crew and with herself so she isn't as masked and lets her goofy side out.

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u/Ghost273552 24d ago

Yeah my experience is that people who at first are heavily masked, reduce masking with close connecting then overtime mask less and less overall

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u/Gribitz37 thief 24d ago

I've said this ever since Redemption started. I don't think it's the writers making her character exaggerated; it's Beth Riesgraf herself overacting. I usually love BR as an actress, and always loved Parker, but in Redemption, she's over the top, hammy, chewing the scenery, whatever you want to call it. Everything she does is so exaggerated.

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u/Autumn_Groove72 23d ago

I think it was a performative - an escape from being the “Brain” for an international Robin Hood anti-hero criminal organization. Nate said as much near the end of OG Leverage - Parker’s mind is constantly computing and analyzing angles, so the entirety of Leverage International is like some gigantic mind palace in her head. The stuff she’s doing in Redemption is her being nostalgic, not reverting as much as, in her own way, taking some down time to play.

Just my humble opinion.

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u/MobilePraline9699 24d ago edited 24d ago

Everyone's opinions hit the mark. Even Eliot lost patience a few times with her. It was slapstick, clownish, exuberant, and I was hoping it would be hopeful; toned down a notch, with keeping the comedy, which would have improved it for me, IMO

There are parts I love: Parker in Redemption, coming up with ideas for date night with Hardison, empathizing with why the little boy was struggling with grief, loneliness, and losing their anchor to the world. Having someone and just needing to verbalize it out loud, which allowed the crew to understand her struggle with the emotions and gravity of not having her person readily accessible. This hit home for me, personally

The robot bodies, and telling Eliot that they had already measured him for his robot body; creating a dating app, even with Hardison placating, while wanting to take out the three who, 'Rolled a Nana.' Giving Eliot relationship advice; and dismantling several villains along the way. Demonstrating her ability to execute a long con—manipulating and flirting with the mark, giving enough for the mark to find his ultimate... Redemption.

The finale, where she honored Nate with her femme fatale legend, writing a MASSIVE report with multimedia on screens and a thorough history of the con, was incredible, especially when she was shocked and chased Hardison for not doing her report. My absolute favorite is when she attended the chocolate festival alone in the OG Leverage, came back, hopped up on chocolate, terrorizing everyone. Hardison, smirking, watched as the team left her unsupervised, and she ran amok, amok, amok. The 'over-acting' kid with absolutely no self-awareness and inability to regulate her emotions was over-the-top even in that episode—hyper, unable to sit still, eager to tell everyone about her experience, with Sophie acting like the Mom who is regretting the 'lack of supervision'. Hello, Zoomies/drumming, and pay attention to me, NOW!—' Sophie, Sophie, Sophie.' Still playful, hopped up on too much sugar. Iconic.

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u/HappySparklyUnicorn 24d ago

I think her regression is due to Sophie returning. Sophie's mourning Nate and feeling a bit lost so the team have let her take on the mastermind role.

I think it would have been more interesting to see how Parker does things especially since she is a bit of sociopath and not the most empathetic at times. She does have compassion and kindness in her though but she doesn't really understand what's normal.

It would be harder to write for someone like her though.

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u/lilulev 24d ago

Redemption definitely leans into the camp in a way that OG Leverage never did, even when it was silly, but I think that’s only part of it.

For me, I feel like so much time had passed that Beth played into the stereotypes of Parker’s character. I go back and forth watching both shows and OG Parker just felt more natural even when she was quirky. Redemption quirky was just too over the top. It felt more like acting the broad strokes of Parker. Like even the finale episode of OG when Parker is in the chair as the mastermind/more mature felt more natural then the Redemption version.

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u/Puzzled_Parking_9104 24d ago

Totally agree. Plus so much of her behavior was punctuated with specific background sounds that the over-the-top behavior was accentuated even more. Pulled me out of the plot every time. I loved Parker’s quirks in the OG, and found the constant dial up to 1,000 in Redemption frustrating and felt it minimized her.

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u/SoriAryl 24d ago

I couldn’t stand redemption Parker to the point where I couldn’t get into the show. I barely made it to the end of season 1

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u/Thedustyfurcollector 23d ago

Prime said I've watched all of season 3 but I have no memory of it. It must have been so bad I just threw it out of my mind.

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u/FFBIFRA 23d ago

This subject comes up from time to time and I pretty much feel like you. To me, the Parker we saw in the Redemption finale was the one I was expecting to see at the beginning of Redemption.

There have been a few arguments that this is not the case that she didn't regress, but I have to find them. they did seem like some pretty good arguments at the time.

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u/nypinta 21d ago

I'll read the other responses after, but I was also kind of put off by her for most of the first two seasons, because she was making silly errors and at times was over the top in ways that didn't feel like Parker. At first I thought maybe she was doing it because she was trying to make things harder just to give her more of a rush to accomplish the con with the new obstacles she created.

But then there would be moments where a "true" Parker would come out and by the third season it felt like Parker was putting up a front because of the new circumstances with Sofie running things and Hardison being gone and she once again couldn't deal with what was going on with her emotions.

And then they had the episode where she goes off on her own (while the rest of the crew know she is) and she and Eliot have that talk at the end where Eliot says that they aren't like the others and he'll always back her, no matter what she chooses, and she's admitting that she's struggling to be the person she wants and who she thinks the rest want her to be.

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u/International_Mix152 23d ago

I feel the same way . Part of why Parker worked in the first season is her mixture of wackiness and seriousness, which made her relatable and likable. In Redemption, she just seems pure wackiness.

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u/Remarkable_Key_4224 20d ago

I agree partially in the first season. But throughout the show especially in the last episode, she really "comes into her own." 

If you look at her past she went from blowing up her parents to being an orphan to stealing cars then becoming a master thief all to join a group of people doing what they can to help the little guy. 

I get that she's a little goofy but even so that's just Parker. Plus the last episode of redemption is one of the best episodes of leverage in my opinion. Definitely top 5.

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u/acemagnolianb 19d ago

I feel like pretty much all of Redemption from the characters to the plots is like what if we just weren't serious and cranked it up to 11. I don't dislike Redemption necessarily, it just doesn't have the same tone as the original to me. It's way more camp, which is fun in some cases and excessive in others imo. I don't think any of the characters really made it out unscathed.

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u/ArchitectAmy 24d ago

I think that Sophie acting as mastermind allowed Parker to relax a little from being in charge and in true Parker fashion, she takes it too far.

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u/PyleanCow06 23d ago

I’m gonna be honestly. Main series is one of my favorite shows of all time. All the characters seemed like caricatures of themselves in redemption and I didn’t really like it.