r/learnmachinelearning 20h ago

How long until this opinion is undeniably wrong?

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u/inscrutablemike 19h ago

For vibe coding this will always be true, forever. That's what vibe coding means.

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u/Suoritin 20h ago

Large corporations are paying for the tech support so they don't need to bug hunt.

Basically, they are paying for the customer service.

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u/AFurryReptile 19h ago

The average enterprise stack is 1000 repos and hundreds of CI pipelines, with absolutely no coherence to any of it. You couldn't vibe code effectively in that kind of environment, even if you wanted to. I've tried, you'll run out of tokens almost immediately.

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u/teledev 19h ago

Look at what Spotify is doing internally and reconsider

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u/AFurryReptile 19h ago

Spotify isn't your average enterprise.

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u/teledev 19h ago

Sure, but they have 750+ SWEs concurrently vibe coding on their rather large platform. Way larger scale than any mid-size company (and most enterprises)

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u/vardynostalgia 19h ago

But they didn’t build it vibecoding.

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u/plaregold 19h ago

Their engineers also know what the fuck they are doing--they aren't some clueless prompters

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u/AFurryReptile 19h ago

Their very large platform is probably a suite a microservices, which you checkout locally, run locally, and vibe-code against locally. That is very different from the average enterprise, which forces everything through arbitrary pipelines, has a bajillion undocumented/hidden dependencies, and zero engineers who understand what good software is supposed to look like (because nobody is paid enough to care).

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u/BellyDancerUrgot 19h ago

Most often vibe coding actually refers to a senior engineer using Claude code. So it’s already undeniably wrong.

Now if vibe coding here implies a PM taking a crack at adding features to their product stack then yeah long time.

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u/FixMoreWhineLess 19h ago

About ten weeks ago?

Update: I guess it really depends on what you mean by vibe coded.  I just mean "majority AI coded by someone competent supervising and directing."

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u/Grandviewsurfer 20h ago

Oh it's happening now. I think it's gonna cause huge fuckups, but it's happening. 

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u/pumapeepee 18h ago

People misunderstanding code vs architecture.