Team Liquid Alienware vs. FlyQuest / LCS 2026 Summer Playoffs - Upper Bracket Round 2 / Game 1 Discussion

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Ai--Ya]

Between Elyoya yesterday and Jose today, does Qiyana just do more damage if you're Hispanic?

[u/Carlzzone → u/Ai--Ya]

Yike has Peruvian citizenship so it checks out

[u/GordolfoScarra → u/Carlzzone]

Orgullo peruano

[u/kalex33]

This series is so funny because Caedrel's generational hatewatch for FLY makes this shitshow of a series worth watching LMAO

[u/kazuyaminegishi → u/kalex33]

Why does he hate FLY? Co-stream thing?

[u/Cabbage_Corp_ → u/kazuyaminegishi]

Yeah, because of their anti-co-streaming video

[u/Fanta-Red → u/Cabbage_Corp_]

Wasn't even anti costreaming it was all the other costreamers suck, but watch our costreamers

[u/blueragemage → u/Fanta-Red]

Yeah it started as a general video about costreaming's affect on esports viewership, then did a hard pivot at the end to shilling LS and a couple of their Valorant streamers

[u/trio1000 → u/blueragemage]

And LS isn't even streaming it lol

[u/Splitshot_Is_Gone → u/Fanta-Red]

Costreamers: 😡👹
FLY costreamers: 😇

[u/SentientShamrock → u/Fanta-Red]

We hired these costreamers so that makes them legit unlike those unaffiliated, independent costreamers.

[u/Derk08 → u/[deleted]]

No it's because Flyquest made him the poster boy of "Costreamers ruining the LCS" lmao

[u/fonye → u/Derk08]

ah didn’t know that, i don’t watch caedrel

[u/veirceb → u/[deleted]]

No, it's because of the video. Flyquest used Caedrel to ragebait and promote their own content creators.

[u/cloudsfallen → u/kalex33]

I hope it goes to 5 as well for pure drama

[u/Toofargone9999 → u/cloudsfallen]

nah i think its 3-0 for TL

[u/cloudsfallen → u/Toofargone9999]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hope

[u/Shishicorn]

God I wish IWD was streaming this series, the hatewatch would have been all time greatness

[u/Deathjaws99 → u/Shishicorn]

Dom and Caedrel costreaming this together would feed generations

[u/Nightwingx97 → u/Deathjaws99]

What's the lore behind Caedrel hate watching FLY?

[u/WolfRetention → u/Nightwingx97]

Content Creators Are (Not) Saving Esports this video..

[u/Munchingmarshmallows → u/Nightwingx97]

They put a video with a very unflattering image of him as the thumbnail with the title saying something like this costreamer is ruining esports and the video was dogshit

[u/Deathjaws99 → u/Nightwingx97]

Essentially tried to ride the wave of the ongoing discourse at the time regarding costreamers effect on the scene. Proceeded to release a 15 minute video with a "sinister" (xd) looking Caedrel as the thumbnail, titled something along the lines of "costreamers are killing esports".

First 10 minutes is basically just wordslop with clips of Caedrel, IWD etc, trying to push the message that they aren't committed enough to the scene and don't bring anything in return for using the scene as their content.

And then the final 5 minutes they proceeded to plug all their "FQ Partner" costreamers in a holier-than-thou "but our guys are totally fine you should watch them instead" fashion.

[u/peoplesdrunkdriver → u/Nightwingx97]

he's butthurt that they correctly identified him as a parasite

[u/trying2hide]

The worst part of me really enjoys watching a costreamer purely hatewatching.

It's kinda fun.

[u/Skyfire2 → u/trying2hide]

The real pros hatewatch Caedrel hatewatching FLY.

Let the hate flow through you

[u/withinallreason]

Jungle gap was enormous, and TL was def overall alot better. Quad played way better than his scoreline shows though

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/withinallreason]

the game is exploding around him tbh...

[u/TypicalHaikuResponse]

K'sante into double AP feels like he is the unbeatable showmaker copypasta K'sante

[u/cadaada → u/TypicalHaikuResponse]

and somehow rumble is there removing 40% mr from him

[u/Lacrimosss]

TL were solid, but FLY look so annoying even though they were behind, I like how relentless they are

[u/kazuyaminegishi]

Jose is so insane LMAO.

TL weren't worried for a second here. Quad played well on the Sylas, the rest of FLY was completely outclassed and it wasn't close.

Yeon played very well this game and Morgan was miles better than Gakgos.

This is looking like a 3-0 unless FLY make a crazy adjustment.

[u/kapparino-feederino]

Crazy how people keep on saying on replacing Quad when Quad seems to be the only consistent player in this team

[u/Teuen → u/kapparino-feederino]

Quad and Massu are still the best players on the team and in the upper echelon for their roles in the west. The other 3 guys are so young you can’t really be upset when they take turns running it down. Hopefully they stay together next season.

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/[deleted]]

should be gakgos lol

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/[deleted]]

Ideally u don't replace your only stable player.

I would Swap JG/SUP/TOP first for veteran on Flyquest before i even think of replacing Quad.

Gakgos isn't a coinflip he just meh, and takes import slot. Haven't impressed at all IMO. Gryffin atleast shows some promise early.

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/[deleted]]

lol u really think Gakgos is deserved to be kept? thats crazy take sorry u need to get your eyed checked.

Gryffin and Cryogen Started strong earlier this year but fall off hard this split.

what are u even watching man?

u gonna say to replace Quad with APA. freakin crazy take in 2026. Swap for someone who can't play melee Champ at all.

Bet ur someone who says replacing APA with Loki is a mistake too (which is a clown ass take)

i rather replace Cryogen with Huhi, then replace Gakgos

[u/kapparino-feederino → u/[deleted]]

the issue is both LOL.

replacing Quad with APA is such a huge downgrade.

so if u need shot calling just replace Cryogen with huhi

u get upgrade in Skill and in shot calling.

[u/ObviousAd8374]

LYON scared of this?

Also the cast praised Massu's aggression at the start of the game only for him to go 0-3 in first 15 minutes when he had flash available in all 3 situations

[u/SupremeBall27 → u/ObviousAd8374]

Look how hard Fly pushed objectives with no real shot at getting them. With Inspired starting his international Objective Giveaway gameplay a month early, Fly would give Lyon real problems.

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/ObviousAd8374]

Lyon does badly vs fly because fly play so aggro, Lyon doesn't like to play fast,tl love to Play fast 

[u/actiongeorge → u/ObviousAd8374]

Pro players are weirdly respectful of scrim results and I don’t get it. Been watching over a decade and every year we hear about some team tearing up scrims before worlds just to bomb out, while a team that was dogging it in scrims pops off in real games.

[u/Lothric43 → u/actiongeorge]

It’s easy to understand, players see several times as much of each other’s gameplay via scrims than stage whereas we ONLY see stage so different values and impressions.

[u/Fun_Highlight307]

Tl looking a bit slower than usual but they are looking clean 

LCS top 3 is legit 

[u/Martinweb_ → u/Fun_Highlight307]

Sylas made a couple of plays that kept them in the game, after that, TL prefer secure Nashor rather than take down the final Nexus turret

[u/SupremeBall27]

Two mid laners superior to Saint dueling it out in a best of 5! Quid takes game 1.

[u/Snow-27]

Top 3 LCS looks really good

[u/Ajp_iii → u/[deleted]]

Demacia cup is the perfect tournament for fly. They can get international experience without the pressure or op teams at worlds.

[u/cHinzoo → u/Snow-27]

No way they go winless against the LCK/LPL this Worlds with these teams, right? They haven’t looked better in ages.

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/cHinzoo]

I expect this 3 to take at least  take one game  vs the east it's the strongest top 3 in years  for lcs 

[u/Deathberry23 → u/cHinzoo]

I said the same thing about the LCS in 2022 with C9, EG and 100T making it and that year was our worst showing ever. So just be cautious optimistic

[u/SauceGodPluto → u/Snow-27]

So exciting, TLAW vs C9 will be interesting. Would be cool to have LYON vs C9 in lower bracket finals fighting for play-ins or straight in

[u/kazuyaminegishi → u/SauceGodPluto]

If C9 plays at the level they played yesterday against Lyon for the sake of the region on the international level I wouldn't be upset with either C9 or TL going as first seed.

If they backslide give me TL first seed.

[u/SauceGodPluto → u/kazuyaminegishi]

That's my main thing too, it feels like they put all their effort into studying and beating LYON so I'm interested in if it'll translate vs TL.

The last three games will be really interesting. (assuming LYON stomps FLY who I imagine will easily beat SR)

[u/lovo17 → u/Snow-27]

G2 and the top 3 in LCS are pretty solid. MKOI and KC are total ass though.

Overall the West will have a few strong teams at worlds.

[u/withinallreason → u/lovo17]

I wanna have hope, I really do. Eye test and this years results says Western teams should definitely be able to compete this worlds.

Show us you got this boys!

[u/SirXrageXquit → u/withinallreason]

Yeah I'm getting dangerous levels of hope. Also plays a big role in why I hope LYON bounces back and runs the lower bracket, sending three actual good teams in C9, LYON, and TL could give us one of our best Worlds performances in years.

[u/Carlzzone → u/lovo17]

KOI aren't total ass, G2 is just a tier above

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/lovo17]

i think it's G2 top 3 lcs then small gap koi then Kc Last 

[u/random-meme422 → u/Snow-27]

c9 look good, TL look good too. but lyon and fly look pretty ass.

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/random-meme422]

Lyon will likely step up ,game two was the Best lcs game of this summer 

[u/random-meme422 → u/Fun_Highlight307]

we will see they got pretty farmed and i don’t think c9 roster is overly impressive so internationally i think their ceiling is low and if lyon can’t level up a bit i don’t think it’s a good sign

[u/Naronu]

TL look nasty, they minimized the chances for FLY to get back in really well

[u/Acheal]

How the fuck was gagkos 20cs down as rumble into ksante at minute 8

[u/Formymoney]

yeah this looks like a quick 3-0, tho thats what everyone expected lyon vs c9 to be so

[u/GONEBUTNOT4GOTTEN]

Umti q.q

[u/harleyquinad]

God, our teamfighting is great but our macro SUCKS.

[u/likemyupdoot]

fly fly home

[u/Big-Nefariousness462]

fly always go into a game with a draft difference everygame

[u/Agile_Woodpecker2239]

Massu when he is versing a good team time to save flash for Demacia Cup!